Re: [Vo]:EM Drive need not be outside the spacecraft
Russ, Can you verify that the Chinese actually have a functioning EM drive on their space station. Also, how much thrust are they claiming? Finally, is that device or group of devices capable of maintaining all of the orientation required for the station? Dave -Original Message- From: Russ George To: vortex-l Sent: Tue, Dec 27, 2016 3:45 pm Subject: [Vo]:EM Drive need not be outside the spacecraft A curious facet of the EM drive, such as the one now operating on the Chinese space station is that it need not be on the outside of the spacecraft, it’s thrust is independent of the position and surrounding matter. This enables all manner of interesting spacecraft geometries.
[Vo]:Greek version of Rossi on PBS
PETROS ZOGRAFOS is a Greek inventor who claims to split water in a way to get more energy out than was put into the system. Sound familiar? Shades of Stanley Meyer. He even uses the "resonance" spiel of Meyer and pretends that it is a new thing. Zografos was apparently featured on PBS tonight but I missed it. His videos have been up on You Tube for several weeks however. Unfortunately he prefers to keep things mysterious so it is not clear if he is an inventive genius or scam artist in the best tradition of Stan... not to mention the recent demo of Randy Mills - which is a new twist on the old theme. Zografos has shown several systems in the old videos but he is basically comes off as a showman who is almost as disingenuous as AR in providing no data. In one system, it was discovered that he was consuming aluminum from electrodes in order to split water in a way that makes it look super efficient - if, that is ... you forget about the energy required to refine the aluminum. Maybe PBS is new to this kind of scam - the legacy of Yull Brown and Meyer and man others others ... or maybe Zografos has found a new breakthrough which is real anomaly. His past work was no more than smoke and mirrors - but there is always hope for the big breakthrough in splitting water with resonance. That hope for turning water into a fuel is the legacy of Jules Verne who created a meme which is by now ingrained in the free-energy aspirations of every new age. Beware of Greeks bearing gifts.
[Vo]:LENR info plus alliteration LENR +
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/12/dec-27-2016the-6-pillars-of-lenr-plus.html a new presentation of Alexander Parkhomov-- snd other- George Egely's dust fusion, an essay by Russ George... peter Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
[Vo]:EM Drive need not be outside the spacecraft
A curious facet of the EM drive, such as the one now operating on the Chinese space station is that it need not be on the outside of the spacecraft, it’s thrust is independent of the position and surrounding matter. This enables all manner of interesting spacecraft geometries.
