[Vo]:RE: CF/LENR Data is based on Mel MIles' efforts

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Regarding He dissolved in heavy water, I would guess that Miles etal. would 
have degased the heavy water   under vacuum to begin with.  In any case there 
was not much He measured as time went by, and it was proportional to energy 
production as I recall.   The control experiments would have identified 
dissolved He IMHO.

Bob Cook




From: Brian Ahern
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 7:27 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:CF/LENR Data is based on Mel MIles' efforts


I expect the work was well done. He measured levels at parts/billion against a 
background of parts per million.

The diffusion rates of helium into the container was calculated as being 
negligible even at those very low levels.



What about helium dissolved in the D2O electrolyte? Was there any discussion of 
that issue?


From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 1:10 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Quantized inertia Ted talk removes need for dark matter 
andexplains the EM drive


The many-body involvement of LENR makes it likely that energy changes 
associated with kinetic energy in the form of spin and associated angular 
momentum happen in comparison to kinetic energy associated with a change of 
linear momentum and its conservation involving only 2 or 3 particles  during a 
short reaction period.



An important requirement is that any reaction involving spin kinetics must 
happen in integral quanta of the reduced Planck constant and happen very fast 
in a coherent system—maybe with no time delay (or within a given time quanta.)  
The coherent system of particles allows the required  coordination of spin 
quanta consistent with the 2nd law of TD requiring an increase of disorder 
within the coherent system reacting.  The phonic (vibrational) kinetic energy 
(heat energy) is a measure of the disorder.  Thus, the change in disorder 
(entropy) is quantized.  IMHO the 2nd Law needs a little modification of make 
it make its math reflect this discontinuous property.



I consider the  coupling field involved is the local B magnetic field that 
occurs within the reacting coherent system, since it determines the allowed 
nuclear energy states of constituent nucleons. as well as, the allowed energy 
of the orbital electron spin of the constituent lattice electrons.  High energy 
gammas are out of the picture for all practical purposes, since the conditions 
they need to be produced (large nucleon energy changes) do not occur.



The LENR’s are akin to those that occur within NMR machines without the 
energetic gammas associated with two or three- body reactions and  their 
significant changes of nuclear potential energy to kinetic energy with 
instanteous conservation of linear momentum.   Resonant orbital spin conditions 
within a coherent system can be engineered to happen by changing the B magnetic 
field with external applied varying magnetic H fields.



Modifying resonant conditions allows LENR control in practical devices with 
engineered nano parameters.   With this in mind dusty plasmas allow better 
control of individual coherent systems (nano-- particles) than larger condensed 
matter crystalline structures.  IMHO the heat transfer engineering is possible 
without destruction of the nano-particles making up the dusty plasma.  Lithium 
and Hydrogen are good convective heat transfer agents as well as well as being 
in LENR directly as a constituent of a coherent system.



Bob Cook



frm: Brian Ahern
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 4:21 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Quantized inertia Ted talk removes need for dark matter 
andexplains the EM drive



Mitchell Swartz says the gammas are absent because they are spin forbidden.



I do not know the rules and their conditions.





From: Russ George 
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 8:11 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Quantized inertia Ted talk removes need for dark matter 
andexplains the EM drive



Pray tell as one of the few real cold fusion experimentalists what associations 
might have come to your mind connecting nanoparticles lasing and cold fusion. 
Any ideas on how coherent lasing domains might assist in mediating those pesky 
gammas?



On Feb 6, 2018 12:16 PM, "Brian Ahern" 
> wrote:

This nanometric laser was developed in 1996 under an AF SBIR Phase II contract. 
I was the  contract monitor. Prof. Nabil Lawandy developed LASER PAINT. It 
incorporated nanopowders that scattered light and resulted in stimulated 
emission  It is widely used today.





From: Russ >
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 6:05 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Quantized inertia Ted talk removes need for dark matter 
andexplains the 

[Vo]:CF/LENR Data is based on Mel MIles' efforts

[Brian Ahern]

I expect the work was well done. He measured levels at parts/billion against a 
background of parts per million.

The diffusion rates of helium into the container was calculated as being 
negligible even at those very low levels.


What about helium dissolved in the D2O electrolyte? Was there any discussion of 
that issue?



From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 1:10 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Quantized inertia Ted talk removes need for dark matter 
andexplains the EM drive


The many-body involvement of LENR makes it likely that energy changes 
associated with kinetic energy in the form of spin and associated angular 
momentum happen in comparison to kinetic energy associated with a change of 
linear momentum and its conservation involving only 2 or 3 particles  during a 
short reaction period.



An important requirement is that any reaction involving spin kinetics must 
happen in integral quanta of the reduced Planck constant and happen very fast 
in a coherent system—maybe with no time delay (or within a given time quanta.)  
The coherent system of particles allows the required  coordination of spin 
quanta consistent with the 2nd law of TD requiring an increase of disorder 
within the coherent system reacting.  The phonic (vibrational) kinetic energy 
(heat energy) is a measure of the disorder.  Thus, the change in disorder 
(entropy) is quantized.  IMHO the 2nd Law needs a little modification of make 
it make its math reflect this discontinuous property.



I consider the  coupling field involved is the local B magnetic field that 
occurs within the reacting coherent system, since it determines the allowed 
nuclear energy states of constituent nucleons. as well as, the allowed energy 
of the orbital electron spin of the constituent lattice electrons.  High energy 
gammas are out of the picture for all practical purposes, since the conditions 
they need to be produced (large nucleon energy changes) do not occur.



The LENR’s are akin to those that occur within NMR machines without the 
energetic gammas associated with two or three- body reactions and  their 
significant changes of nuclear potential energy to kinetic energy with 
instanteous conservation of linear momentum.   Resonant orbital spin conditions 
within a coherent system can be engineered to happen by changing the B magnetic 
field with external applied varying magnetic H fields.



Modifying resonant conditions allows LENR control in practical devices with 
engineered nano parameters.   With this in mind dusty plasmas allow better 
control of individual coherent systems (nano-- particles) than larger condensed 
matter crystalline structures.  IMHO the heat transfer engineering is possible 
without destruction of the nano-particles making up the dusty plasma.  Lithium 
and Hydrogen are good convective heat transfer agents as well as well as being 
in LENR directly as a constituent of a coherent system.



Bob Cook



frm: Brian Ahern
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 4:21 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Quantized inertia Ted talk removes need for dark matter 
andexplains the EM drive



Mitchell Swartz says the gammas are absent because they are spin forbidden.



I do not know the rules and their conditions.





From: Russ George 
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 8:11 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Quantized inertia Ted talk removes need for dark matter 
andexplains the EM drive



Pray tell as one of the few real cold fusion experimentalists what associations 
might have come to your mind connecting nanoparticles lasing and cold fusion. 
Any ideas on how coherent lasing domains might assist in mediating those pesky 
gammas?



On Feb 6, 2018 12:16 PM, "Brian Ahern" 
> wrote:

This nanometric laser was developed in 1996 under an AF SBIR Phase II contract. 
I was the  contract monitor. Prof. Nabil Lawandy developed LASER PAINT. It 
incorporated nanopowders that scattered light and resulted in stimulated 
emission  It is widely used today.





From: Russ >
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 6:05 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Quantized inertia Ted talk removes need for dark matter 
andexplains the EM drive



McCulloch’s QI concept readily conforms to observed real cold fusion data and 
is far superior to the armchair speculations that so commonly  eschew the real 
data. The first miracle of cold fusion is that something gives a ‘fusing nudge’ 
to the reactants, D+D in their native ecological domain, the highly loaded 
metallic lattice. At the dimensions well known to be that in which prodigious 
4He is produced by DD fusion, mere nanometers, the QI notion fits very well. In 
that dimensional