Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Motley Fool: Lockheed Martin Doubles Down on Cold Fusion

[Brian Ahern]

The scaling laws make tokomacs impossible.


From: David L. Babcock 
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 12:38 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Motley Fool: Lockheed Martin Doubles Down on Cold Fusion

"Cold fusion".  Gah!  Requires a very hot -magnetic confinement!- plasma. 
Someone at LM is an idiot.

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 8:07 PM Terry Blanton 
mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>> wrote:


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Motley Fool: Lockheed Martin Doubles Down on Cold Fusion.
https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/07/29/lockheed-martin-doubles-down-on-cold-fusion.aspx

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Motley Fool: Lockheed Martin Doubles Down on Cold Fusion

[David L. Babcock]

"Cold fusion".  Gah!  Requires a very hot -magnetic confinement!- plasma.
Someone at LM is an idiot.

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 8:07 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:

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RE: [Vo]:Calcium as a Mills catalyst

[JonesBeene]

From: Brian Ahern

➢ The calcium is more than intriguing. It could finally knock down the door for 
lenr.


Out of curiosity – in googling and checking for Mills patents which 
specifically mention calcium, and which could be relevant to the Mizuno 
breakthrough, there is one notable monstrosity of interest, US Patent # 
6,024,935 

For those who do not believe in coincidences – this landmark  has recently 
expired … when? You ask … 

…that would be:  ta da … TODAY (August 1) !

Supposedly this patent  disclosure held the record for length and number of 
claims at USPTO for years - and it probably cost more to file and maintain than 
anything before or after.. 

In fact, the Patent office reportedly  changed the filing  guidelines in 
response to this tour de force, but alas for Mills it may be of little real 
value since he could not bring a device to market soon enough. Even expired – 
those who know Mills expect he will somehow get his foot in the door… and 
possibly he deserves some credit – if only for the complexity of the patent 
disclosure.

US Patent # 6,024,935  (February 15, 2000) Lower-Energy Hydrogen Methods and 
Structures by Randell Mills, et al.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US6024935A/en

A detail which stands out is that calcium works as a compound as a compound 
with arsenic. Let’s hope Mizuno’s water contained no arsenic.

Jones

Re: [Vo]:Calcium as a Mills catalyst

[Brian Ahern]

The calcium is more than intriguing. It could finally knock down the door for 
lenr.


From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 12:06 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Calcium as a Mills catalyst


Alan should make sure ethanol vs =methnol does not make any difference  in the 
deposition of caco3 crystals on the Ni mesh.Jed should ask Mizuno about this 
question.



Bob Cook



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From: Axil Axil 
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 9:15:19 PM
To: vortex-l 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Calcium as a Mills catalyst

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16dP_SmSP8SuQbZ7p9eGoCwf1vwJKh7KPL7NAYv7j13o/edit

Calcium as a LENR catalyst???

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:43 PM JonesBeene 
mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>> wrote:

Thanks Jeff –



This could be important. Limelight – as old-fashioned as it may seem at first - 
has long been claimed to have a number of optical properties which look like 
they are related to hydrino creation.



On a related topic, and looking at Fig.3 in the first cited paper, which is the 
emission spectra of calcium sulfate, the peak is at 580 nm.



Coincidentally (or not) the palladium optical anomaly where the metal switches 
sharply from photon reflector to perfect absorber is at 590 nm. That would only 
be relevant if calcium carbonate has its peak at about the same value.



There are a number of reasons to think the Mizuno breakthrough relates more to 
Mills’ theory than to LENR.



Jones





From: Jeff Driscoll



and calcium oxide is a candoluminescent material where limelight is given off 
when hydrogen is exposed to the material at high temperature:



http://zhydrogen.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Candoluminescence-of-cave-gypsum.pdf



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXl6H7G6BMU



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limelight



On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 9:26 PM Jones Beene 
mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>> wrote:

For those who have not carefully followed Mills' work on dense hydrogen 
(hydrino) - calcium is listed as a favored catalyst. This could be important 
(or not) in the context of the recent Mizuno breakthrough ... certainly it has 
not been mentioned before but perhaps it should be (at least listed as a 
possibility) due to a few other related details.



The Rydberg level for Ca is the fifth - 1/5 as it is inverted and notably 
calcium is the one of the few for this level of shrinkage. There is 
complementary catalysis with the other potential catalysts present, since there 
is palladium - first level, oxygen/carbonate ion - 2nd level, nickel 7th and 
11th and now calcium in the middle - so that there is a deepening progression 
which could set up a cascade of some kind.



If one is not tied down to any particular M.O. or theory - then this spread of 
catalysis values could be relevant in the context of Alan Goldwater's new 
report on his early stage effort at replication where he finds calcium:



https://docs.google.com/document/d/16dP_SmSP8SuQbZ7p9eGoCwf1vwJKh7KPL7NAYv7j13o/edit



Really nice insight by Alan.






--

Jeff Driscoll
617-290-1998

Re: [Vo]:Calcium as a Mills catalyst

[Brian Ahern]

An acetone rinse will get the water out.

From: Mark Jurich 
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 4:10 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Calcium as a Mills catalyst


FYI:



Here’s a blurb on Ethanol Purification:

https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Ethanol#Purification



… So it now seems there are a couple ways of not using Benzene to remove the 
remaining water.  I am not sure how Rossville is now performing their 
purification, so inquiring would be useful if interested.



- Mark



From: Mark Jurich 
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 12:44 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Calcium as a Mills catalyst



ROSSVILLE GOLD SHIELD ETHYL ALCOHOL C2H5OH 200 POOF

ONE U.S. Pint (473 ML)

GOLD SHIELD CHEMICAL CO.

HAYWARD, CA 94545

D.S.P. – CALIF. – 151



(Use to be in a Glass Container, now Plastic :( )

(STAMP SEAL, but the purification process usually leaves trace amounts of 
benzene, so please do NOT drink it!)



Happy Hunting,

Mark Jurich