Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

2020-03-05 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Good news, finally!   pretty low mortality rate in South Korea.

Perhaps very aggressive testing is just the thing we need.  Lots of drive
through testing throughout the country would be great.   Catch it early,
make people aware of their status.   Get them to self isolate. It's pretty
noninvasive as well from I can tell, just swam swabbing.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/coronavirus-testing-blitz-appears-to-keep-south-korea-death-rate-low


On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 2:22 PM Jonathan Berry  wrote:

> Who thinks the US WANTS the Coronavirus (Covid19 just sounds clunky) to
> get bad?
>
> Though Jed has spoken well about the baffling ignorance politicians have
> with respect to science...
> Still, I have heard so many times about how the US makes faulty tests,
> isn't testing people, only a few states can test, false negatives...
>
> This is rife for that Archer meme, "Do you want X, Because this is how you
> get X".
>
> level 4
> CollegeSuperSenior 
> 615 points·2 hours ago
> 
>
> No joke. I work in US healthcare and have helped patients who have
> traveled to infected countries and are showing symptoms but we have not
> done any testing for covid-19. I am starting to get a terrible cough myself
> but I wont be tested and will not be allowed to take any sick leave unless
> I am dying and 100% unable to make it to work.
>
>
> This means the US is looking at a massive outbreak which won't be
> killing at the nominal mortality rate, but at a rate closer to the serious
> rate that requires hospitalization, but where there isn't real possibility
> of that.
>
>
> Basically, Iran is a look at the future for the US.
>
> On Fri, 6 Mar 2020 at 09:15,  wrote:
>
>> In reply to  Terry Blanton's message of Thu, 5 Mar 2020 14:44:46 -0500:
>> Hi,
>> [snip]
>> >$2.4T World GDP loss?  Hah!  The stockmarket lost $6T last week alone.
>>
>> BTW stock market losses don't really count, because there is a winner for
>> every loser. The net impact is small. GDP
>> losses OTOH imply a loss of production. That is a real loss, though what
>> remains will be spread over less people, so the
>> net effect per head of population may not be too severe.
>>
>> >
>> >
>> https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stock-market-selloff-impact-americans-3-charts-not-immediate-impact-2020-2-1028952948
>> >
>> >
>> >On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 11:06 AM Frank Znidarsic 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-spreads-one-study-predicts-10155.html
>> >>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Robin van Spaandonk
>>
>> local asymmetry = temporary success
>>
>>


Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

2020-03-05 Thread Jonathan Berry
Who thinks the US WANTS the Coronavirus (Covid19 just sounds clunky) to get
bad?

Though Jed has spoken well about the baffling ignorance politicians have
with respect to science...
Still, I have heard so many times about how the US makes faulty tests,
isn't testing people, only a few states can test, false negatives...

This is rife for that Archer meme, "Do you want X, Because this is how you
get X".

level 4
CollegeSuperSenior 
615 points·2 hours ago


No joke. I work in US healthcare and have helped patients who have traveled
to infected countries and are showing symptoms but we have not done any
testing for covid-19. I am starting to get a terrible cough myself but I
wont be tested and will not be allowed to take any sick leave unless I am
dying and 100% unable to make it to work.


This means the US is looking at a massive outbreak which won't be
killing at the nominal mortality rate, but at a rate closer to the serious
rate that requires hospitalization, but where there isn't real possibility
of that.


Basically, Iran is a look at the future for the US.

On Fri, 6 Mar 2020 at 09:15,  wrote:

> In reply to  Terry Blanton's message of Thu, 5 Mar 2020 14:44:46 -0500:
> Hi,
> [snip]
> >$2.4T World GDP loss?  Hah!  The stockmarket lost $6T last week alone.
>
> BTW stock market losses don't really count, because there is a winner for
> every loser. The net impact is small. GDP
> losses OTOH imply a loss of production. That is a real loss, though what
> remains will be spread over less people, so the
> net effect per head of population may not be too severe.
>
> >
> >
> https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stock-market-selloff-impact-americans-3-charts-not-immediate-impact-2020-2-1028952948
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 11:06 AM Frank Znidarsic 
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-spreads-one-study-predicts-10155.html
> >>
> Regards,
>
>
> Robin van Spaandonk
>
> local asymmetry = temporary success
>
>


Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

2020-03-05 Thread mixent
In reply to  Terry Blanton's message of Thu, 5 Mar 2020 14:44:46 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
>$2.4T World GDP loss?  Hah!  The stockmarket lost $6T last week alone.

BTW stock market losses don't really count, because there is a winner for every 
loser. The net impact is small. GDP
losses OTOH imply a loss of production. That is a real loss, though what 
remains will be spread over less people, so the
net effect per head of population may not be too severe.

>
>https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stock-market-selloff-impact-americans-3-charts-not-immediate-impact-2020-2-1028952948
>
>
>On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 11:06 AM Frank Znidarsic  wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-spreads-one-study-predicts-10155.html
>>
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success



Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

2020-03-05 Thread mixent
In reply to  Terry Blanton's message of Thu, 5 Mar 2020 14:44:46 -0500:
Hi,

It will be much more than that. If no cure/vaccine is found then about 250 
million will die World wide. (worst case).

>$2.4T World GDP loss?  Hah!  The stockmarket lost $6T last week alone.
>
>https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stock-market-selloff-impact-americans-3-charts-not-immediate-impact-2020-2-1028952948
>
>
>On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 11:06 AM Frank Znidarsic  wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-spreads-one-study-predicts-10155.html
>>
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success



Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

2020-03-05 Thread Terry Blanton
$2.4T World GDP loss?  Hah!  The stockmarket lost $6T last week alone.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stock-market-selloff-impact-americans-3-charts-not-immediate-impact-2020-2-1028952948


On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 11:06 AM Frank Znidarsic  wrote:

>
> https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-spreads-one-study-predicts-10155.html
>


Re: [Vo]:Mechanical OU update

2020-03-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 1:19 AM Vibrator !  wrote:

> Thank you - but sorry, what's "MEP"?
>

Mechanical, Electrical and Plumbing.  He's busy at the moment doing a
computational fluid dynamics analysis for the tunnel ventilation system for
Los Angeles Metro; but, he said it looked interesting and would
"investigate".

Cheers!


Re: [Vo]:Hexaquark

2020-03-05 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach

SO(4) physics has now a complete model for 4-He, 3-He too.

It will completely change our understanding of dense matter as 4-He 
structurally contains only 4 protons. The model is exact down to 1eV and 
100% matches the already known proton, Neutron and Deuterium structure.


Thus, from now on, any paper based on classical QED/LQCD reasoning 
promoting funny particles like quarks is not even educated nonsense, 
it's just gobley-gock as once Peter Ekström termed text containing 
inconclusive mathematical formula and word salad...


J.W.




Am 05.03.20 um 16:25 schrieb Jones Beene:

New candidate for dark matter - a particle with 6 quarks

https://www.sciencealert.com/d-star-hexaquark-particles-could-be-responsible-for-creating-dark-matter

Six quarks as a unit ...

hmm... essentially a deuterium molecule has six quarks, not to mention 
Wyttenbach's theory proposes 6 dimensions.


Probably not related but is it possible that a breakthrough in 
understanding is on the horizon?






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[Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

2020-03-05 Thread Frank Znidarsic
https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-spreads-one-study-predicts-10155.html

[Vo]:Hexaquark

2020-03-05 Thread Jones Beene
New candidate for dark matter - a particle with 6 quarks

https://www.sciencealert.com/d-star-hexaquark-particles-could-be-responsible-for-creating-dark-matter
Six quarks as a unit ... 

hmm... essentially a deuterium molecule has six quarks, not to mention 
Wyttenbach's theory proposes 6 dimensions.
Probably not related but is it possible that a breakthrough in understanding is 
on the horizon?