Re: [Vo]:Electron Transition Atomic Mass Change Quantified

2020-05-09 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
It's not Einsteins law it's Plank law combined with Poincarés Mass EM 
mass energy relation.


See : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Poincaré#Mass–energy_relation

The formula E=MC^2 has first been found by Poincaré!

J.W.




Am 09.05.20 um 19:33 schrieb Terry Blanton:
A new door to the quantum world has been opened: When an atom absorbs 
or releases energy via the quantum leap of an electron, it becomes 
heavier or lighter. This can be explained by Einstein's theory of 
relativity (E = mc2). However, the effect is minuscule for a single 
atom. Nevertheless, the team of Klaus Blaum and Sergey Eliseev at the 
Max Planck Institute for Nuclear Physics has successfully measured 
this infinitesimal change in the mass of individual atoms for the 
first time. In order to achieve this, they used the ultra-precise 
Pentatrap atomic balance at the Institute in Heidelberg. The team 
discovered a previously unobserved quantum state in rhenium, which 
could be interesting for future atomic clocks. Above all, this 
extremely sensitive atomic balance enables a better understanding of 
the complex quantum world of heavy atoms.


https://phys.org/news/2020-05-successfully-infinitesimal-mass-individual-atoms.html 




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Re: [Vo]:Electron Transition Atomic Mass Change Quantified

2020-05-09 Thread H LV
Interesting. Mass-energy change at the atomic scale is usually ignored by
chemists and physicists because it is too small measure.
Now that such a small change can be measured perhaps it will lead to the
discovery/recognition of novel phenomena at the interface of chemical and
nuclear physics.
Harry

On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 1:33 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:

> A new door to the quantum world has been opened: When an atom absorbs or
> releases energy via the quantum leap of an electron, it becomes heavier or
> lighter. This can be explained by Einstein's theory of relativity (E =
> mc2). However, the effect is minuscule for a single atom. Nevertheless, the
> team of Klaus Blaum and Sergey Eliseev at the Max Planck Institute for
> Nuclear Physics has successfully measured this infinitesimal change in the
> mass of individual atoms for the first time. In order to achieve this, they
> used the ultra-precise Pentatrap atomic balance at the Institute in
> Heidelberg. The team discovered a previously unobserved quantum state in
> rhenium, which could be interesting for future atomic clocks. Above all,
> this extremely sensitive atomic balance enables a better understanding of
> the complex quantum world of heavy atoms.
>
>
> https://phys.org/news/2020-05-successfully-infinitesimal-mass-individual-atoms.html
>
>


[Vo]:Electron Transition Atomic Mass Change Quantified

2020-05-09 Thread Terry Blanton
A new door to the quantum world has been opened: When an atom absorbs or
releases energy via the quantum leap of an electron, it becomes heavier or
lighter. This can be explained by Einstein's theory of relativity (E =
mc2). However, the effect is minuscule for a single atom. Nevertheless, the
team of Klaus Blaum and Sergey Eliseev at the Max Planck Institute for
Nuclear Physics has successfully measured this infinitesimal change in the
mass of individual atoms for the first time. In order to achieve this, they
used the ultra-precise Pentatrap atomic balance at the Institute in
Heidelberg. The team discovered a previously unobserved quantum state in
rhenium, which could be interesting for future atomic clocks. Above all,
this extremely sensitive atomic balance enables a better understanding of
the complex quantum world of heavy atoms.

https://phys.org/news/2020-05-successfully-infinitesimal-mass-individual-atoms.html


Re: [Vo]:JCMNS 32 uploaded

2020-05-09 Thread Jones Beene
 Robin, good point

The Efimov state is generally overlooked, as we have noted before. There is 
something special about 3 identical resonantly bound units (esp bosons) even if 
the state is transitory, especially where the vectors are orthogonal on a 
rotating plane. (see the animation on the Wiki entry). 

Consider the Efimov state in the context of light lithium and the evidence of a 
substantial nuclear anomaly with lithium-6 due to transitory clustering of 3 
deuterons, replacing the normal nucleus. The Italian researcher Claudio 
Spitaleri is a leading proponent.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S037026931500653X


Robin wrote:  
 In reply to  Jed Rothwell's message 

>J. Condensed Matter Nucl. Sci., Vol. 32, May 2020 is here:
>http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/BiberianJPjcondensedze.pdf 

I wonder if the authors of "Is the Nuclear Active Environment a 
Metals–Silicon–Boron–D2Alloy Enabling a Three-body
Recombination between Deuteron and the Nuclei of D2?" considered Efimov states 
using Hydrinos/Deuterinos, where of
course the initial particles are already much closer together?