Re: [Vo]: CoV-19 news

2020-07-01 Thread Jeff Driscoll
  Intravenous vitamin C and steroids  (specifically Methylpredni­solone)
works well on Covid-19. There is a bunch of highly respected doctors
(including pulmonologists) trying to get the word out without much luck.
The treatment has to be started as soon as breathing problems develop.
 see here:
https://medium.com/@joyce.kamen/no-one-told-them-how-to-save-themselves-the-covid19-tragedy-that-didnt-have-to-happen-722dbace50f9


https://covid19criticalcare.com/

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 9:40 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:

> I picked the wrong decade to quit drinking.  :)
>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 9:17 PM Jones Beene  wrote:
>
>> In Lodi, they recommend 200 mg pycnogenol washed down with a glass of
>> good Zin ... 6 times per day
>>
>> This may not offer a complete cure but who cares? it will definitely
>> mitigate many of the symptoms ;-)
>>
>>
>> Terry Blanton wrote:
>>
>> > Here is a good Italian survey of in vitro results which offer a
>> promising category of nutritional options (polyphenols) ...
>>
>> An apple a daywith covfefe.
>>
>> From wikipedia:
>>
>> *Many foods in a healthy diet contain high levels of naturally occurring
>> phenols
>> 
>>  in
>> fruits, vegetables, cereals, tea and coffee. Fruits like grapes, apple,
>> pear, cherries and berries contain up to 200–300 mg polyphenols per 100
>> grams fresh weight. The products manufactured from these fruits also
>> contain polyphenols in significant amounts. Typically a glass of red wine
>>  or a cup of tea or coffee contains
>> about 100 mg polyphenols.[4]
>>   *
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: [Vo]: CoV-19 news

2020-07-01 Thread Terry Blanton
I picked the wrong decade to quit drinking.  :)

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 9:17 PM Jones Beene  wrote:

> In Lodi, they recommend 200 mg pycnogenol washed down with a glass of good
> Zin ... 6 times per day
>
> This may not offer a complete cure but who cares? it will definitely
> mitigate many of the symptoms ;-)
>
>
> Terry Blanton wrote:
>
> > Here is a good Italian survey of in vitro results which offer a
> promising category of nutritional options (polyphenols) ...
>
> An apple a daywith covfefe.
>
> From wikipedia:
>
> *Many foods in a healthy diet contain high levels of naturally occurring
> phenols
> 
>  in
> fruits, vegetables, cereals, tea and coffee. Fruits like grapes, apple,
> pear, cherries and berries contain up to 200–300 mg polyphenols per 100
> grams fresh weight. The products manufactured from these fruits also
> contain polyphenols in significant amounts. Typically a glass of red wine
>  or a cup of tea or coffee contains
> about 100 mg polyphenols.[4]
>   *
>
>
>
>


Re: [Vo]: CoV-19 news

2020-07-01 Thread Jones Beene
 In Lodi, they recommend 200 mg pycnogenol washed down with a glass of good Zin 
... 6 times per day
This may not offer a complete cure but who cares? it will definitely mitigate 
many of the symptoms ;-)

Terry Blanton wrote:  
 > Here is a good Italian survey of in vitro results which offer a promising 
 > category of nutritional options (polyphenols) ...
An apple a daywith covfefe. 
>From wikipedia:
Many foods in a healthy diet contain high levels of naturally occurring phenols 
in fruits, vegetables, cereals, tea and coffee. Fruits like grapes, apple, 
pear, cherries and berries contain up to 200–300 mg polyphenols per 100 grams 
fresh weight. The products manufactured from these fruits also contain 
polyphenols in significant amounts. Typically a glass of red wine or a cup of 
tea or coffee contains about 100 mg polyphenols.[4]  

   

Re: [Vo]: CoV-19 news

2020-07-01 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 6:21 PM JonesBeene  wrote:
> Here is a good Italian survey of in vitro results which offer a promising
category of nutritional options (polyphenols) ...

An apple a daywith covfefe.

>From wikipedia:

*Many foods in a healthy diet contain high levels of naturally occurring
phenols

in
fruits, vegetables, cereals, tea and coffee. Fruits like grapes, apple,
pear, cherries and berries contain up to 200–300 mg polyphenols per 100
grams fresh weight. The products manufactured from these fruits also
contain polyphenols in significant amounts. Typically a glass of red wine
 or a cup of tea or coffee contains
about 100 mg polyphenols.[4]
  *


RE: [Vo]: CoV-19 news

2020-07-01 Thread JonesBeene

Big pharma is really going out of their way to downplay low tech approaches 
which may not “cure” the virus but instead minimize the symptoms to the point 
of avoiding hospitalization.

Here is a good Italian survey of in vitro results which offer a promising 
category of nutritional options (polyphenols) which may very well offer the 
maximum in terms of lowering the symptoms for minimal cost and risk. “No cure 
but no hospitalization” is an attractive compromise for many.

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmed.2020.00240/full

>From all I have read, this polyphenol category actually provides the most 
>promising near term approach if your goal is avoiding hospitalization 
>following a positive test for the infection.

Of course – big pharma gets zero and the economy still suffers – but the hard 
truth is that a real cure and effective vaccine may NEVER materialize. 

Many experts agree with this but will not go the next step and actually 
recommend polyphenols.

From: Jürg Wyttenbach
Ivermectin seems to be the cure of choice! 
https://www.trialsitenews.com/president-of-dominican-republics-largest-private-health-group-discusses-the-success-of-ivermectin-as-a-treatment-for-early-stage-covid-19/



Re: [Vo]: CoV-19 news

2020-07-01 Thread Lennart Thornros
Yes but what about H2O2.
Well-known killer of viruses.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020, 17:08 Jürg Wyttenbach  wrote:

> On  LENR forum we run a thread about all possible news about SARS-CoV-9
> CoV-19..
>
>
> https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/6222-covid-19-wuflu-news/?action=lastPost
>
> Ivermectin seems to be the cure of choice!
>
>
> https://www.trialsitenews.com/president-of-dominican-republics-largest-private-health-group-discusses-the-success-of-ivermectin-as-a-treatment-for-early-stage-covid-19/
>
> Or  a common cold protects you of CoV-19
>
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8475639
>
>
> Why HCQ works:
>
> https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.26.20056507v1.full.pdf
>
>
> https://healthwise.punchng.com/nigerian-researchers-find-chloroquine-hydroxychloroquine-effective-for-covid-19-prevention/
>
> https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.24.20139386v1
>
>
> This is more critical -from an anti vaxer site:
>
> Lessons from the Lockdown—Why Are So Many Fewer Children Dying?
>
> https://childrenshealthdefense…any-fewer-children-dying/
> 
>
>
> Finally big pharma mafia in target:
>
>
> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gilead-prices-covid-19-drug-111703247.html
>
>
> https://www.marketwatch.com/story/hhs-50-courses-of-gilead-sciences-remdesivir-to-be-available-for-sale-2020-06-29?siteid=yhoof2=yahoo
>
> J.W.
>
> --
> Jürg Wyttenbach
> Bifangstr. 22
> 8910 Affoltern am Albis
>
> +41 44 760 14 18
> +41 79 246 36 06
>
>


Re: [Vo]: CoV-19 news

2020-07-01 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
On  LENR forum we run a thread about all possible news about SARS-CoV-9 
CoV-19..


https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/6222-covid-19-wuflu-news/?action=lastPost

Ivermectin seems to be the cure of choice!

https://www.trialsitenews.com/president-of-dominican-republics-largest-private-health-group-discusses-the-success-of-ivermectin-as-a-treatment-for-early-stage-covid-19/

Or  a common cold protects you of CoV-19

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8475639


Why HCQ works:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.26.20056507v1.full.pdf

https://healthwise.punchng.com/nigerian-researchers-find-chloroquine-hydroxychloroquine-effective-for-covid-19-prevention/

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.24.20139386v1


This is more critical -from an anti vaxer site:

Lessons from the Lockdown—Why Are So Many Fewer Children Dying?

https://childrenshealthdefense…any-fewer-children-dying/ 




Finally big pharma mafia in target:


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gilead-prices-covid-19-drug-111703247.html

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/hhs-50-courses-of-gilead-sciences-remdesivir-to-be-available-for-sale-2020-06-29?siteid=yhoof2=yahoo

J.W.

--
Jürg Wyttenbach
Bifangstr. 22
8910 Affoltern am Albis

+41 44 760 14 18
+41 79 246 36 06



[Vo]:Re: Jed's predictions

2020-07-01 Thread Frank Znidarsic
Here it is.
https://csnews.com/three-square-market-sets-out-create-chain-100-self-pay-convenience-stores


-Original Message-
From: Frank Znidarsic 
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2020 11:50 am
Subject: Jed's predictions

I believe that Jed missed the mark with his optimistic predictions about cold 
fusion.  Even this group does not discuss it very much and more.
Jed predictions about automation are; however, coming true.  I just went to the 
store "3 Self Pay".  There was no attendant.  You just pick up the merchandise 
and check your self out.  This is the first store of this type that I have 
seen.  I wonder about theft of product and how they hope to prevent it.

Frank




Re: [Vo]:Re: Jed's predictions

2020-07-01 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach

Self pay is up and running here in Switzerland since years.

If you like to do free work without getting any payback then you are 
welcome!


Looks like the USA has lost contact with the rest of the world. 
Especially after Trump today  bought all Remsdesivir - a crappy untested 
medicament that only is sold for making profit.


May be this country deserves a president that steals (for his friends) 2 
billions tax payers money to buy a crap drug for the treatment of CoV-19 
pharma victims! (I'm happy that the crap went off market!!)


https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/usa-kaufen-remdesivir-vorraete-leer-324940007518

J.W.

On 01.07.2020 17:52, Frank Znidarsic wrote:

Here it is.

https://csnews.com/three-square-market-sets-out-create-chain-100-self-pay-convenience-stores


-Original Message-
From: Frank Znidarsic 
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2020 11:50 am
Subject: Jed's predictions

I believe that Jed missed the mark with his optimistic predictions 
about cold fusion.  Even this group does not discuss it very much and 
more.


Jed predictions about automation are; however, coming true.  I just 
went to the store "3 Self Pay".  There was no attendant.  You just 
pick up the merchandise and check your self out.  This is the first 
store of this type that I have seen.  I wonder about theft of product 
and how they hope to prevent it.



Frank



--
Jürg Wyttenbach
Bifangstr. 22
8910 Affoltern am Albis

+41 44 760 14 18
+41 79 246 36 06



[Vo]:Jed's predictions

2020-07-01 Thread Frank Znidarsic
I believe that Jed missed the mark with his optimistic predictions about cold 
fusion.  Even this group does not discuss it very much and more.
Jed predictions about automation are; however, coming true.  I just went to the 
store "3 Self Pay".  There was no attendant.  You just pick up the merchandise 
and check your self out.  This is the first store of this type that I have 
seen.  I wonder about theft of product and how they hope to prevent it.

Frank