Re: [Vo]:ThomasGas - is it just another alternative energy scam ?

2020-07-30 Thread Michael Foster
I think the most interesting thing about limelight is how almost all the 
emitted radiation seems to be in the visible spectrum. Carbon arc, for example, 
has lots of UV and IR for the same amount of energy input.  Don't know the 
explanation for that. Those thorium gas mantles seem to have the same property, 
but work at a much lower temperature.



Re: [Vo]:ThomasGas - is it just another alternative energy scam ?

2020-07-30 Thread Michael Foster
 I can just see the oxygen and hydrogen lines running throughout my house, with 
the solar panels powering the electrolysis cell outside. There would be little 
pieces of marble clamped onto ceramic stand-offs with tiny torches aimed at 
them.

"Did you change the marble chips this week, Honey? The light in the kitchen is 
getting a little dim."

Well OK, maybe not. But it solves the battery problem. And the limelight really 
is pleasing compared to carbon arc for example. I can't really explain why.

Who is claiming that lime light is OU?




 Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 09:35:04 PM UTC, Jones Beene  
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>Maybe not impracticable, Michael, especially given the simplicity. Perhaps a 
>"use" or many uses would materialize if indeed there was found to be an excess 
>photon flux anomaly.

>The bright output of such a light source should be tested using a simple 
>specialty meter against a known incandescent source,for instance. Simply by 
>using a lumen or light meter (less than $100) which are accurate and not 
>complicated by environmental conditions, we would bypass the mystique of 
>proper flow calorimetry.

>Excess photon emission essentially means that the photon flux times the energy 
>per photon would exceed unity which would be the chemical energy of the 
>hydrogen burning in O2. This would seem to be a feasible way to show net 
>energy gain from limelight - and assuming calcium is a catalyst for formation 
>of dense hydrogen, it could be the easiest way... plus maybe the most 
>convincing... when the goal is to show this kind of anomaly.
  

Re: [Vo]:ThomasGas - is it just another alternative energy scam ?

2020-07-30 Thread Jeff Driscoll
And the power of that incandescent spectrum could be anomalous and could be
from the creation of Mills' hydrinos.  I wanted to investigate hydrogen
gas + calcium oxide "limelight" but ran out of time and money 2 years ago.
I got one data point from my calorimeter that didn't show any excess heat
at around 200 watts input. I don't show that data point in the following
link but just verbally describe it as not showing excess heat. See here:

http://zhydrogen.com/?page_id=2120



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> Sorry Bob,  I shouldn't have referred to my little ad hoc experiment as an
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Re: [Vo]:ThomasGas - is it just another alternative energy scam ?

2020-07-30 Thread Michael Foster
Sorry Bob,  I shouldn't have referred to my little ad hoc experiment as an 
"investigation".  It was more like, "What if I look at a lime light with a hand 
held spectroscope to see what's there?"  What I saw was what you'd expect to 
see: Dim calcium and hydrogen lines along with the ever-present sodium double D 
lines due to contamination.  All this was nearly obscured by the bright 
continuous incandescent spectrum.








 On Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 03:03:51 PM UTC, bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
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Michael—





Is your investigation of limelight written up?





If so, it would be good to identify an accessible reference.






Two  questions that I had relative to the investigation you note:  What 
instrument did you use to determine the spectrum and what was the range of 
frequency you were able to investigate/determine wit
 the instrument?





Bob Cook