Re: Dave Beaty Re: [Vo]:ufo report to be coming out in a month
On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 1:21 PM ROGER ANDERTON wrote: > Well, aliens supposedly refer to people as containers for souls > Ah, yes. That reminds me of *Passport to Magonia*, probably Jacques Vallee's best work. https://www.reiters.com/book/9780987422484
RE: Dave Beaty Re: [Vo]:ufo report to be coming out in a month
Well, aliens supposedly refer to people as containers for souls Robert Lazar mentioned a book that contained the history of earth and that it said that humans were referred to as ..containers for souls" and that souls could be traded in something like a barter system. The aliens are doing it all the time. They're trading in souls? Yes. They were shuffling us around like we were cattle to them. http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/themagazine/vol6/orion3.shtml which makes them demonic-> because supposedly Devil trades in souls-> ask the Devil for what you want in exchnage for selling your soul etc. -- Original Message -- From: "Chris Zell" To: "vortex-l@eskimo.com" Sent: Monday, 24 May, 21 At 17:36 Subject: RE: Dave Beaty Re: [Vo]:ufo report to be coming out in a month As for Aliens getting marooned here, I wonder about a similar idea. Both “Communion” and Linda Howe claim Aliens have something to do with an afterlife. I wonder if we are undesirable as to reincarnation elsewhere so they set things up to keep us here. Not on my planet, Monkey-Boy. CAUTION: This message was sent from outside the Nexstar organization. Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender.
RE: Dave Beaty Re: [Vo]:ufo report to be coming out in a month
As for Aliens getting marooned here, I wonder about a similar idea. Both "Communion" and Linda Howe claim Aliens have something to do with an afterlife. I wonder if we are undesirable as to reincarnation elsewhere so they set things up to keep us here. Not on my planet, Monkey-Boy. CAUTION: This message was sent from outside the Nexstar organization. Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender.
Re: Dave Beaty Re: [Vo]:ufo report to be coming out in a month
"So what are they?" From Fran Blanche Part 1 https://youtu.be/a6tDHZj5q5Q Part 2 https://youtu.be/FTermh1w_0A Harry On Mon., May 24, 2021, 10:06 a.m. H LV, wrote: > Perhaps Earth is used as the interstellar equivalent of the island of > St Helena for undesirable aliens. > > Or maybe aliens are marooned here by accident because they ventured > too close to some sort of cosmic vortex which hurls them to our solar > system. > > Harry > > On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 9:47 AM Chris Zell wrote: > > > > A few thoughts about UFO’s: > > > > > > > > If I was an Alien, I’d think twice about eating humans or anything else > on this planet. Pollution, toxic metals, plastic residue and God knows > what else is in the meat. Like eating seafood with potential mercury in > it. Don’t touch that human, you don’t know where he’s been. > > > > > > > > There have been claims after Roswell that an Alien said they use bodies > as ‘dolls’ or remote units – so they can experience things but stay safe – > wherever home is. > > > > > > > > There have been claims that Earth is unique in its wild abundance of > life and different species. Steven Greer talked about some ET’s picking > wild flowers. The Tall Whites seem to use Earth as a way station or > interesting place to visit – with one female visiting here since Monroe > was President. > > > > > > > > I also speculate that a telepathic or collective consciousness might be > critical in these ET’s because otherwise, they might blow themselves up as > that which humans are headed towards. If they really can immobilize nukes, > God speed. Clinton once said, “I feel your pain” but that needs to be more > than metaphorical. > > > > > > > > There is recent speculation that UFO disclosure is being done to give > the Military Industrial Complex a new expensive enemy to fight – in > building space weapons. I hope it’s because of the Chinese putting > pressure on the Pentagon in a disclosure competition. > > > > > > > > CAUTION: This message was sent from outside the Nexstar organization. > Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the > sender. >
Re: Dave Beaty Re: [Vo]:ufo report to be coming out in a month
Perhaps Earth is used as the interstellar equivalent of the island of St Helena for undesirable aliens. Or maybe aliens are marooned here by accident because they ventured too close to some sort of cosmic vortex which hurls them to our solar system. Harry On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 9:47 AM Chris Zell wrote: > > A few thoughts about UFO’s: > > > > If I was an Alien, I’d think twice about eating humans or anything else on > this planet. Pollution, toxic metals, plastic residue and God knows what > else is in the meat. Like eating seafood with potential mercury in it. > Don’t touch that human, you don’t know where he’s been. > > > > There have been claims after Roswell that an Alien said they use bodies as > ‘dolls’ or remote units – so they can experience things but stay safe – > wherever home is. > > > > There have been claims that Earth is unique in its wild abundance of life and > different species. Steven Greer talked about some ET’s picking wild flowers. > The Tall Whites seem to use Earth as a way station or interesting place to > visit – with one female visiting here since Monroe was President. > > > > I also speculate that a telepathic or collective consciousness might be > critical in these ET’s because otherwise, they might blow themselves up as > that which humans are headed towards. If they really can immobilize nukes, > God speed. Clinton once said, “I feel your pain” but that needs to be more > than metaphorical. > > > > There is recent speculation that UFO disclosure is being done to give the > Military Industrial Complex a new expensive enemy to fight – in building > space weapons. I hope it’s because of the Chinese putting pressure on the > Pentagon in a disclosure competition. > > > > CAUTION: This message was sent from outside the Nexstar organization. Please > do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender.
RE: Dave Beaty Re: [Vo]:ufo report to be coming out in a month
A few thoughts about UFO’s: If I was an Alien, I’d think twice about eating humans or anything else on this planet. Pollution, toxic metals, plastic residue and God knows what else is in the meat. Like eating seafood with potential mercury in it. Don’t touch that human, you don’t know where he’s been. There have been claims after Roswell that an Alien said they use bodies as ‘dolls’ or remote units – so they can experience things but stay safe – wherever home is. There have been claims that Earth is unique in its wild abundance of life and different species. Steven Greer talked about some ET’s picking wild flowers. The Tall Whites seem to use Earth as a way station or interesting place to visit – with one female visiting here since Monroe was President. I also speculate that a telepathic or collective consciousness might be critical in these ET’s because otherwise, they might blow themselves up as that which humans are headed towards. If they really can immobilize nukes, God speed. Clinton once said, “I feel your pain” but that needs to be more than metaphorical. There is recent speculation that UFO disclosure is being done to give the Military Industrial Complex a new expensive enemy to fight – in building space weapons. I hope it’s because of the Chinese putting pressure on the Pentagon in a disclosure competition. CAUTION: This message was sent from outside the Nexstar organization. Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender.
Re: Dave Beaty Re: [Vo]:ufo report to be coming out in a month
Coincidentally - this turned up in the morning's news feed... https://getpocket.com/explore/item/when-lab-experiments-carry-theological-implications Looking beyond so-called 'common sense' and/or 'scientific proof' - in the broader debate over the reality of ET phenomena - there is no valid reason to deny that what we may denote s a "UFO" event is in fact both real but also completely non-physical in our 3-space ... which echoes an earlier observation in this thread.
Re: Dave Beaty Re: [Vo]:ufo report to be coming out in a month
I suggest to the US defense department that they assume a more proactive posture to analyze the nature of the UFO by probing the physical nature of the UFOs that are intruding into US restricted airspace as follows: I suggest that one of the most intelligent and capable Super Hornet missiles: the AIM-120 AMRAAM air-to-air missile undergoes warhead replacement with a custom UFO sensor characterization package to probe the internal structure of the UFO. These sensors might include magnetic field characterization, UFO real time flight data location recording, time dilation detection, field energy power level measurement, inertial movement measurement and recording, and sundry environmental measurements and recording which might include temperature, pressure, electric polarization, and the like. The Super Hornet warhead sensor replacement package might include package recovery signaling similar to a black box air crash recorder. The AIM-120 AMRAAM air-to-air missile already has the necessary targeting, pursuit and penetration capabilities necessary to localize the UFO, intercept it and proceed to penetrate the UFO's interior so that data can be recorded and saved for later analysis. By following an after action sensor package signaling beacon, the Navy can locate and retrieve the sensor package either on land or under the ocean anywhere on earth. On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 6:47 PM Robin wrote: > In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 23 May 2021 15:36:43 -0400: > Hi, > > Perhaps the piezoelectric effect caused by pressure on the geological > strata creates localized high voltages that ionize > the air. > > > >What if UFOs are actually Weakly interacting massive particles (WIMP). > >Maybe the common conception of what a particle can be is too limited at > >least in terms of size. What if UFOs are the appearance of dark matter on > >earth. I have a number of reasons in support of this conjecture. > > > >A case in point, the The Hessdalen lights. > > > >The Hessdalen lights are unexplained lights observed in a > 12-kilometre-long > >(7.5 mi) stretch of the Hessdalen valley in rural central Norway. > > > >The bus-sized Hessdalen lights are of unknown origin. They appear both by > >day and by night, and seem to float through and above the valley. They are > >usually bright white, yellow or red and can appear above and below the > >horizon. The duration of the phenomenon may be a few seconds to well over > >an hour. Sometimes the lights move with enormous speed; at other times > they > >seem to sway slowly back and forth. On yet other occasions, they hover in > >mid?air.Unusual lights have been reported in the region since at least the > >1930s. High activity occurred between December 1981 and mid-1984, during > >which the lights were being observed 15–20 times per week, attracting many > >overnight tourists who arrived in for a sighting. As of 2010, the number > of > >observations has dwindled, with only 10 to 20 sightings made yearly. > > > >Many attempts at trying to get to the bottom of these lights have centered > >on the local geology to explain their casation. The one that I like the > >best is the explanation that attributes the phenomenon to an incompletely > >understood reaction involving hydrogen, oxygen and sodium, which occurs in > >Hessdalen because of the large deposits of scandium there. This > explanation > >seems to support the catalytic formation of a metallic hydrogen based > >polariton condensate. But how can this condensate grow so large, the size > >of a bus. A clue comes from research observations about how the Hessdalen > >lights are initiated: > > > >"The light phenomenon is always preceded by very short-lasting (on the > >order of a fraction of second) flashes of light which appear everywhere in > >the valley and which emit power ranging from 10 to 300 W. Sometimes such > >flashes are recorded at a very short distance (up to 5 m) from the > >observer." > > > >This indicates that the large bus-sized condensate waveform condenses > from > >the entanglement of many smaller sub clusters. There is no > >alien civilization origin story involved here. > > > >There are many such areas around the world that have seen these lights > >produced on a regular basis including the Marfa lights in Texas. > > > >But there are other clues that can lend support to the assignation of > WIMPs > >status to UFO sightings. > > > >I have mentioned the polygon structure of the UFO which is a result of the > >supersolid nature of polariton lattice formation. > > > >There is mention by Navy pilots to the roiling of the surface of the sea > >that is occurring on the surface of the ocean directly under the ocean > >hugging UFO. > > > >I have seen this appear in cavitation based polariton condensation > >formation where the anopole spin circulation induces massive vortex > >formation behavior in water. > > > >Next, polariton condensation is a surface localized reaction where the > >condensate is attracted
