Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-07-04 Thread Frank Grimer
1747 words - in the middle of the night.

One can't help but applaud your enthusiasm, Vibrator.

On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 at 01:04, Vibrator !  wrote:

> I didn't put any on tick tok.
>
> I didn't 'put' any anywhere.
>
> Again, every day for the last few weeks i've come home from work and
> checked YouTube for the last 24 hrs' UAP uploads.
>
> I skip the dross, and categorise the rest.  So, 'this one goes under this
> header, this one belongs on that list, this is the same type from that vid
> last week', etc. etc.
>
> This very basic methodology - a simple case of 'having to start somewhere'
> with such an enormous data set available - has revealed that most
> sightings, currently, if not historically, are of these mysterious box-orbs.
>
> This is a new type of UFO, to me, anyway.  In fact, i don't see ANYONE
> else describing it as a widespread phenomenon - as i say, most only seem to
> get reported, and commented upon, as if they were unique examples - no one
> else has made the link that they're actually ubiquitous!
>
> This thus qualifies as a new scientific discovery, one that directly
> speaks to the deepest, most profound questions of natural philosophy (not
> least conservation of momentum and energy).
>
> So i'm here presenting that list - primarily drawing attention to the
> prevalence of these hitherto unheard-of 'box-orb' captures.
>
> What's so stunning is that most of the boxes / cubes are caught in broad
> daylight, or at least, twilight.
>
> This enables us to clearly identify that they're the same type of craft -
> obviously harder to do when all you can see is a glowing orb at night.
>
> If you click on the link to the list in the first post, it'll pop up a
> test file full of URL's - all you need do is copy-paste them into a
> browser.  What you'll see is DOZENS of independent video captures of flying
> fish-tanks in broad daylight.
>
> Mostly, they're cubes by day, and glowing orbs by night.  However this
> rule is not absolute - some vids show cubes by night, and orbs by day.
> Most orbs are orange or white, yet many other colours are seen;  some are
> seen changing colour.  Some behaviours seem colour-typed.
>
> So the Tik Tok link you actually clicked on - the one, single link i
> hadn't truncated (how lazy are we?) - i only referenced because it's a
> second example of two box-orbs linked by a tether.  If you complete the YT
> link of the other example, you'll see the same thing, different time and
> place.
>
> I'm well aware all of the comments on Tik Tok identify it as fire lanterns
> - social media is for numbskulls, i've never had any social media accounts
> and never will, it's a horde of mindless ignoramuses and no one else has
> seen this list of related examples;  like me when i saw what i thought were
> fire lanterns, it seems the most likely explanation if you don't know any
> better - Chinese lanterns are a thing, and UFO's are woo - precisely your
> logic too, perfectly rational response - but the whole point of this list
> is to PROVIDE that context necessary for proper analysis, ie. comparison
> with other phenomenon.
>
> Show me a type of fire lantern that looks anything like these things..  i
> mean, it's a glassy, iridescent, semi-opaque box or rectangle -  a
> hexahedron, bashically - sometimes appearing dark-metallic or titanium-like
> - often seen rotating or tumbling on all three axes, that momentarily
> disappears then reappears as it flies.  When seen in groups, this optical
> 'phasing in/out' sometimes synchronises between objects.
>
> After adding dozens of examples to the list, last week YT threw up the
> first one showing a tethered pair.  I'll repeat the full link here so you
> can just click on it (sorry if this is video-bombing the page for anyone
> else):
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZubVcEHtBlw
>
> Note how, like the others, they phase in and out in sync - again, use
> comma and period keys (< and >) for frame advance/back while paused.  These
> are categorically the same type of craft seen in many of the other links.
> The only difference is that clearly-visible tether.
>
> People see tethered flying boxes and think "fire lanterns!" by default -
> as i say, i would've too, if i didn't know any better.  Getting folks
> informed, in order to be able to analyse these things in their proper
> context, is my whole raison d'etre, here..
>
> But that was just one, perhaps freak, example of the tethering behaviour -
> maybe one had broken down and was under tow or something.  So you can
> appreciate my excitement when i found another, again on YT, this time in a
> compilation video.  That video referenced its sources, and the segment
> showing this second tethered pair happened to come from Tik Tok, so, since
> it didn't require a sign-up to view, i linked the source rather than the
> timestamped YT video segment..
>
> So, while everyone else is stuck on "what is it?" and "it's fire
> lanterns!", i'm the only person (apparently) aware of this broader 

Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-07-04 Thread Vibrator !
I didn't put any on tick tok.

I didn't 'put' any anywhere.

Again, every day for the last few weeks i've come home from work and
checked YouTube for the last 24 hrs' UAP uploads.

I skip the dross, and categorise the rest.  So, 'this one goes under this
header, this one belongs on that list, this is the same type from that vid
last week', etc. etc.

This very basic methodology - a simple case of 'having to start somewhere'
with such an enormous data set available - has revealed that most
sightings, currently, if not historically, are of these mysterious box-orbs.

This is a new type of UFO, to me, anyway.  In fact, i don't see ANYONE else
describing it as a widespread phenomenon - as i say, most only seem to get
reported, and commented upon, as if they were unique examples - no one else
has made the link that they're actually ubiquitous!

This thus qualifies as a new scientific discovery, one that directly speaks
to the deepest, most profound questions of natural philosophy (not least
conservation of momentum and energy).

So i'm here presenting that list - primarily drawing attention to the
prevalence of these hitherto unheard-of 'box-orb' captures.

What's so stunning is that most of the boxes / cubes are caught in broad
daylight, or at least, twilight.

This enables us to clearly identify that they're the same type of craft -
obviously harder to do when all you can see is a glowing orb at night.

If you click on the link to the list in the first post, it'll pop up a test
file full of URL's - all you need do is copy-paste them into a browser.
What you'll see is DOZENS of independent video captures of flying
fish-tanks in broad daylight.

Mostly, they're cubes by day, and glowing orbs by night.  However this rule
is not absolute - some vids show cubes by night, and orbs by day.  Most
orbs are orange or white, yet many other colours are seen;  some are seen
changing colour.  Some behaviours seem colour-typed.

So the Tik Tok link you actually clicked on - the one, single link i hadn't
truncated (how lazy are we?) - i only referenced because it's a second
example of two box-orbs linked by a tether.  If you complete the YT link of
the other example, you'll see the same thing, different time and place.

I'm well aware all of the comments on Tik Tok identify it as fire lanterns
- social media is for numbskulls, i've never had any social media accounts
and never will, it's a horde of mindless ignoramuses and no one else has
seen this list of related examples;  like me when i saw what i thought were
fire lanterns, it seems the most likely explanation if you don't know any
better - Chinese lanterns are a thing, and UFO's are woo - precisely your
logic too, perfectly rational response - but the whole point of this list
is to PROVIDE that context necessary for proper analysis, ie. comparison
with other phenomenon.

Show me a type of fire lantern that looks anything like these things..  i
mean, it's a glassy, iridescent, semi-opaque box or rectangle -  a
hexahedron, bashically - sometimes appearing dark-metallic or titanium-like
- often seen rotating or tumbling on all three axes, that momentarily
disappears then reappears as it flies.  When seen in groups, this optical
'phasing in/out' sometimes synchronises between objects.

After adding dozens of examples to the list, last week YT threw up the
first one showing a tethered pair.  I'll repeat the full link here so you
can just click on it (sorry if this is video-bombing the page for anyone
else):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZubVcEHtBlw

Note how, like the others, they phase in and out in sync - again, use comma
and period keys (< and >) for frame advance/back while paused.  These are
categorically the same type of craft seen in many of the other links.  The
only difference is that clearly-visible tether.

People see tethered flying boxes and think "fire lanterns!" by default - as
i say, i would've too, if i didn't know any better.  Getting folks
informed, in order to be able to analyse these things in their proper
context, is my whole raison d'etre, here..

But that was just one, perhaps freak, example of the tethering behaviour -
maybe one had broken down and was under tow or something.  So you can
appreciate my excitement when i found another, again on YT, this time in a
compilation video.  That video referenced its sources, and the segment
showing this second tethered pair happened to come from Tik Tok, so, since
it didn't require a sign-up to view, i linked the source rather than the
timestamped YT video segment..

So, while everyone else is stuck on "what is it?" and "it's fire
lanterns!", i'm the only person (apparently) aware of this broader context,
and other related examples.  I'm perhaps the only person who realises that
it's most definitely, categorically NOT fire-lanterns.  That's way too much
responsibility, hence why i'm here, trying to SHOW (not just 'tell') other
smart people.   That's why i'm reporting it here, and not on

Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-07-04 Thread Frank Grimer
I did look at some, not all, of the ones you put on tick tock.

As for this one - blue skies - flashing like a semaphore - ergo - a
firelantern with reflecting panels tumbling around in the wind.

 Not rocket science is it.



On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 at 11:13, Vibrator !  wrote:

> > If you want to believe in little green men, be my guest.
>
> ..so you haven't looked at any of the evidence?  Just wanted to say hello eh..
>
> Well on the off-chance you ever get bored, or really want answers to these big
> questions, maybe take a look in your own time..  I don't see anyone else 
> making
> these connections..  The links won't last forever tho (none of them are 
> mine)..
>
> I suspect you only clicked that one link with a complete URL, showing two 
> tethered
> cubes, every comment below exclaiming it was fire lanterns..  that was your 
> perusal
> of the evidence, and the basis for your conclusion..
>
> ..if i may insist however, this thing below is not a fire lantern:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiowRwpwVAQ=6s
>
> I didn't want to bomb-post embedded videos, hence the truncated links.  Check 
> 'em out,
>
> tho, they'll tickle you i promise..
>
> > But don't look up to the sky while riding that motorbike.
> > You might finish up like the astronomer in Aesop's fable.
>
> Thing is, criss-crossing the country all day and night for three decades,
> i've seen Chinese lanterns
> many times.. always assuming this was the most prosaic explanation for
> orange orbs.  No matter
> how far out in the sticks or how late at night, basically presuming that
> most fire lanterns were released
> by farmers.. for reasons..  because they're a thing, and LGM aren't.
>
> But what the evidence above shows is that a)  some actually ARE aliens -
> these flying orbs DO exist -
> and b)  that they're the same phenomenon as the flying cubes.  They're
> squares by day, disco lights
> by night.
>
> As such, this is much bigger news than LENR, OU or reactionless propulsion
> - likely encompassing
> all these things, but certainly more besides - here's copious, visual
> evidence of new physics, beyond
> the SM, in action.
>
> We don't understand anything of these visitors' technology - what they're
> doing, how or why.  Their
> evident presence however prioritises these questions.  It's the
> alternative - wilful ignorance - that's dumb.
>
> It's much like discovering that Bessler's wheel was actually a genuine
> case of mechanical OU, now
> forgotten and entirely dismissed..  evidence of physics BTSM, right under
> our noses, if not low-hanging
> fruit;  a tantalising tease on what's possible, outside the box of today's
> paradigm.. there in the offing..
>
> How many times have YOU seen and ignored orange orbs on the assumption
> fire lanterns were the
> most-likely explanation?  Because in retrospect, given the evidence here..
> maybe they've seen you too..?
>
> :P
>
>


Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-07-04 Thread Vibrator !
> If you want to believe in little green men, be my guest.

..so you haven't looked at any of the evidence?  Just wanted to say hello eh..

Well on the off-chance you ever get bored, or really want answers to these big
questions, maybe take a look in your own time..  I don't see anyone else making
these connections..  The links won't last forever tho (none of them are mine)..

I suspect you only clicked that one link with a complete URL, showing
two tethered
cubes, every comment below exclaiming it was fire lanterns..  that was
your perusal
of the evidence, and the basis for your conclusion..

..if i may insist however, this thing below is not a fire lantern:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiowRwpwVAQ=6s

I didn't want to bomb-post embedded videos, hence the truncated links.
Check 'em out,

tho, they'll tickle you i promise..

> But don't look up to the sky while riding that motorbike.
> You might finish up like the astronomer in Aesop's fable.

Thing is, criss-crossing the country all day and night for three decades,
i've seen Chinese lanterns
many times.. always assuming this was the most prosaic explanation for
orange orbs.  No matter
how far out in the sticks or how late at night, basically presuming that
most fire lanterns were released
by farmers.. for reasons..  because they're a thing, and LGM aren't.

But what the evidence above shows is that a)  some actually ARE aliens -
these flying orbs DO exist -
and b)  that they're the same phenomenon as the flying cubes.  They're
squares by day, disco lights
by night.

As such, this is much bigger news than LENR, OU or reactionless propulsion
- likely encompassing
all these things, but certainly more besides - here's copious, visual
evidence of new physics, beyond
the SM, in action.

We don't understand anything of these visitors' technology - what they're
doing, how or why.  Their
evident presence however prioritises these questions.  It's the alternative
- wilful ignorance - that's dumb.

It's much like discovering that Bessler's wheel was actually a genuine case
of mechanical OU, now
forgotten and entirely dismissed..  evidence of physics BTSM, right under
our noses, if not low-hanging
fruit;  a tantalising tease on what's possible, outside the box of today's
paradigm.. there in the offing..

How many times have YOU seen and ignored orange orbs on the assumption fire
lanterns were the
most-likely explanation?  Because in retrospect, given the evidence here..
maybe they've seen you too..?

:P