Re: [Vo]:'Super atoms'

2008-07-08 Thread rvanspaa
In reply to  Zachary Jones's message of Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:04:01 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
Thought the list would be interested in this work on easily- 
produceable atom clusters:

http://www.physorg.com/news134129791.html

They claim the principle is old news, but I hadn't heard of the  
electron shell 'conjugation' they suggest in the article.

This may explain something else - the whitegold story. Purported among other
things to be superconducting at room temperature. Some of these atoms are
going to get pretty heavy. Also the Russian results from
http://www.proton21.com.ua/index_en.html might actually contain at least some
superatom substances (especially those they claim are far heavier than
Uranium). It would be unreasonable to get such atoms when matter is bombarded
with high energy electrons, which could easily produce lots of individual atoms
that then may recondense into clusters mimicking other elements. Furthermore,
they used metals as targets, and this current work seems to imply that
conductors are a prerequisite. 
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

The shrub is a plant.



Re: [Vo]:'Super atoms'

2008-07-08 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to  Zachary Jones's message of Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:04:01 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
Thought the list would be interested in this work on easily-
produceable atom clusters:

http://www.physorg.com/news134129791.html

They claim the principle is old news, but I hadn't heard of the
electron shell 'conjugation' they suggest in the article.

This may explain something else - the whitegold story. Purported among other
things to be superconducting at room temperature. Some of these atoms are
going to get pretty heavy. Also the Russian results from
http://www.proton21.com.ua/index_en.html might actually contain at least some
superatom substances (especially those they claim are far heavier than
Uranium). It would be unreasonable to get such atoms when matter is bombarded
with high energy electrons, which could easily produce lots of individual atoms
that then may recondense into clusters mimicking other elements. Furthermore,
they used metals as targets, and this current work seems to imply that
conductors are a prerequisite.
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

The shrub is a plant.



RE: [Vo]:'Super atoms'

2008-07-08 Thread Brian Prothro
This may not be the exact same thing... There is serious work with electron
Charged Clusters via Ken Shoulders whom started his investigation of them
with physicist Hal Puthoff in Austin Texas.  The implications for energy
generation are so powerful he has been reluctant to go there without a
thorough investigation of containment methodologies.  Ken has come a long
way with his work.  

Best bet is to search Google for Ken Shoulders charged clusters.  Some of
his papers are not online.  If you take an interest I can email any by
request.  Not sure how large they are. 

Brian 
 
-Original Message-
From: Robin van Spaandonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:54 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:'Super atoms'

In reply to  Zachary Jones's message of Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:04:01 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
Thought the list would be interested in this work on easily-
produceable atom clusters:

http://www.physorg.com/news134129791.html

They claim the principle is old news, but I hadn't heard of the
electron shell 'conjugation' they suggest in the article.

This may explain something else - the whitegold story. Purported among
other
things to be superconducting at room temperature. Some of these atoms are
going to get pretty heavy. Also the Russian results from
http://www.proton21.com.ua/index_en.html might actually contain at least
some
superatom substances (especially those they claim are far heavier than
Uranium). It would be unreasonable to get such atoms when matter is
bombarded
with high energy electrons, which could easily produce lots of individual
atoms
that then may recondense into clusters mimicking other elements.
Furthermore,
they used metals as targets, and this current work seems to imply that
conductors are a prerequisite.
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk




Re: [Vo]:'Super atoms'

2008-07-08 Thread Zachary Jones
You're quite right; it was actually rather silly of me to not mention  
the ORMUS work when I posted this.  I had emailed Barry Carter just  
before the list to see where he would weigh in on this work, though  
have yet to hear back from him.


I hadn't thought about the use of metal in terms of conduction; I had  
the sense it had more to do with the sheer number of electron energies.


I like some of Jones' observations.



Zak


On Jul 7, 2008, at 11:57 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote:

In reply to  Zachary Jones's message of Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:04:01  
-0700:

Hi,
[snip]

Thought the list would be interested in this work on easily-
produceable atom clusters:

http://www.physorg.com/news134129791.html

They claim the principle is old news, but I hadn't heard of the
electron shell 'conjugation' they suggest in the article.


This may explain something else - the whitegold story. Purported  
among other
things to be superconducting at room temperature. Some of these  
atoms are

going to get pretty heavy. Also the Russian results from
http://www.proton21.com.ua/index_en.html might actually contain at  
least some
superatom substances (especially those they claim are far heavier  
than
Uranium). It would not be unreasonable to get such atoms when matter  
is
bombarded with high energy electrons, which could easily produce  
lots of
individual atoms that then may condense into clusters mimicking  
other elements.
Furthermore, they used metals as targets, and this current work  
seems to imply

that conductors are a prerequisite.
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED]




[Vo]:'Super atoms'

2008-07-07 Thread Zachary Jones
Thought the list would be interested in this work on easily- 
produceable atom clusters:


http://www.physorg.com/news134129791.html

They claim the principle is old news, but I hadn't heard of the  
electron shell 'conjugation' they suggest in the article.


Zak