Re: [Vo]: Hydrogen Outta Nowhere?

2007-02-28 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to  Zell, Chris's message of Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:59:23 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
I realize that completely eliminating all contamination is difficult but
if protons can be popped out of the vacuum by an arc discharge, then I
think we need
to take another look at the Steady State theory of the universe.  This
could be one of those little experiments with big implications.
 
http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/02/a_history_of_dark_matter.html

An alternative explanation is that environmental Hydrinos leak into the
container between the atoms of the solid where they are converted into Hydrogen
by the action of energetic electrons in the arc.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/

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Cooperation (communism) provides the means.



Re: [Vo]: Hydrogen Outta Nowhere?

2007-02-25 Thread Standing Bear
On Friday 23 February 2007 09:59, Zell, Chris wrote:
 I realize that completely eliminating all contamination is difficult but
 if protons can be popped out of the vacuum by an arc discharge, then I
 think we need
 to take another look at the Steady State theory of the universe.  This
 could be one of those little experiments with big implications.

 http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/02/a_history_of_dark_matter.html

later on in the forum there is this thread about 'perpetual motion machines'.
The whole idea of 'free energy' to some folks is not believable inasmuch as
the source of this 'extra energy' is not seen or understood.  Same as the
above 'mysteriousely appearing' proton from an arc discharge.  If the proton 
indeed came out of the void (aether, whatever), so also could energy, as
that proton mass would be so many electron volts.  Suppose there is really
some new physics here that would render the seemingly nonsensical to those
of limited vision..sensable.  It may be that our view of our universe is 
really incomplete after all, and that the conservation theory may really not
be in danger.  If the energy comes from 'somewhere else' , then that
'somewhere else' lost that energy  to 'somewhere here' and conservation
is again satisfied.

Standing Bear



[Vo]: Hydrogen Outta Nowhere?

2007-02-23 Thread Zell, Chris
I realize that completely eliminating all contamination is difficult but
if protons can be popped out of the vacuum by an arc discharge, then I
think we need
to take another look at the Steady State theory of the universe.  This
could be one of those little experiments with big implications.
 
http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/02/a_history_of_dark_matter.html