Mark,
Thane posted this reponse to my comments:
Dear hveeder, Actually if you want to use a gasoline engine analogy (as coined
by one of our engineer investors...) the vehicle would be accelerating while
the gas tank is filling up with fuel and eventually you would have to stop at
the side of the road to dump excess gas into the ditch! As far as unlimited
acceleration is concerned there may be an upper coil limit and certainly there
is an upper physical limit - we have not seen it yet. Cheers Thane
Thane also emphasizes in the demo that the acceleration is accompanied by an 8%
DROP in input power.
Harry
PS Dear Vortex members, if you respond to my mail and want the message sent to
vortex, please make sure the vortex mail address appears in the 'TO' box. I
think this problem is related to the lastest improvements Yahoo has made to
their mail system.
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
To: 'Harry Veeder' hlvee...@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:28:08 PM
Subject: RE: [Vo]: Latest from Thane
Harry said:
“However, I get the impression that the duration of the acceleration is
effectively unlimited, but Thane limits it for safety reasons.”
Thane limits the speed (~3000rpm) for safety reasons, but I doubt that the
effect is unlimited. If I understand it correctly, the rotor needs to be
going at least some lower threshold speed (1800rpm???) or else when the load
is applied it will slow down and eventually stop. At that threshold, the
ability of the magnetic domains to respond to the changing conditions, and
those effects on the electrical properties of the coils, results in the
acceleration effect – opposing magnetic fields occurring at or shortly after
the rotor has passed the centerline of the coils, thus pushing the rotor in
the direction it is turning, thus increasing its speed. However, my gut
feeling is that as the rotor continues to speed up, the ‘push’ will diminish
until it is too small to affect the rotor’s speed. The electrical properties
of the coils have everything to do with how the effect manifests…
-mark
From:Harry Veeder [mailto:hlvee...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:55 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]: Latest from Thane
It is like an electric or gasoline vehicle accelerating without consuming more
electricity or gasoline. The kinetic energy of the vehicle is increasing
without increasing input energy. Now you could say this is merely because the
engine was switched to a more energy efficient mode, but in that case the
duration of the acceleration should be limited. However, I get the impression
that the duration of the acceleration is effectively unlimited, but Thane
limits it for saftey reasons.
Harry
From:Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 7:50:57 PM
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]: Latest from Thane
Hi Mark,
I would like to believe he has discovered another method of
tapping the zero point but without separating how much energy is contained
strictly in the mechanical flywheel from the energy being magnetically
coupled across from the stator you have to question what role efficiency
might play [simply becoming more efficient as frequency increases]. If I
understand the clip correctly the regenerative coils are on the driven device
not the motor drive… could the spinning fields be radiating power like an
antenna and the addition of the extra coils reduces Rf output ?
Fran
From:Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 6:04 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]: Latest from Thane
Latest from Thane:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_wleUlcMK0
The Theory of Conservation of Energy states that:
Energy cannot be created
This theory is false as is shown in this video by employing the Work-Energy
Principle.
The Work-Energy Principle basically states that in order to increase the
inertia (kinetic energy) of a mass some EXTERNAL WORK MUST be performed.
This video shows that this is no longer the case.
Kind regards and happy International Day of Peace
Thane
