[Vo]: Re: Quantum Thermodynamics
If the curious would dump the silly rhetoric, take a moment to visit and study the excellent site of Professor Kowalski, they would discover that Michel Julian is, shall we opine metaphorically: knee deep into cold fusion...g ... and we on Vo should be grateful for his expert opinions on any related subject, even if we do not agree with them. http://blake.montclair.edu/~kowalskil/cf/
Re: [Vo]: Re: Quantum Thermodynamics
Jones Beene wrote: If the curious would dump the silly rhetoric, take a moment to visit and study the excellent site of Professor Kowalski, they would discover that Michel Julian is, shall we opine metaphorically: knee deep into cold fusion...g ... and we on Vo should be grateful for his expert opinions on any related subject, even if we do not agree with them. http://blake.montclair.edu/~kowalskil/cf/ I see nothing silly about seeking truth. If what you say is true then good for you for being direct (saving time) and posting the link. I see Michel Jullian's name throughout threads, and will presume you are correct in that he's working on Cold Fusion and supports Free Energy research. Regards, Paul Lowrance
Re: [Vo]: Re: Quantum Thermodynamics
Paul on the pretense of saving your time and energy with your bluntness you are wasting everybody else's, when they obviously could be put to much better use. I don't consider CF as free energy, and I am not an expert either. My contributions to the field are only tools and proposals which might help to establish indisputability of excess heat claims in CF or other desktop fusion experiments, nothing fundamental. Michel - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: Quantum Thermodynamics ... name throughout threads, and will presume you are correct in that he's working on Cold Fusion and supports Free Energy research.
Re: [Vo]: Re: Quantum Thermodynamics
Michel Jullian wrote: --- I don't consider CF as free energy, --- Why not? Regards, Paul Lowrance
[Vo]: Re: Quantum Thermodynamics
Gentlemen! ...to paraphrase Strangelove, you can't fight in here! This is ... well not the war room, but the war-on-oil room.
[Vo]: Re: Quantum Thermodynamics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be more interesting if JNL could somehow measure temperature changes directly on the spinning magnetic material. He could use a thermal gun. That probably will not happen, but then we have Steorn This company is an enigma to me, as their approach is so... how shall I say it? 'brain-dead' is a bit crude (Steve Jobs' favorite repartee) but not inaccurate g from everything which has appeared in print. ... but anyway... although I am more skeptical of Steorn than of the Newman machine, both may well demonstrate glimpses of OU at times, with repeatability being the salient issue. Nevertheless, it would be ridiculously easy for Steorn (assuming that they even have a well-equipped laboratory, which is not a given) to take and datalog these measurements, and then to report the results without giving up a scintilla of proprietary information. Then the question would remain (assuming a temperature drop)... can you trust anyone who chooses this kind of strategy to introduce an earth-shaking transformative technology - which supposedly is already patented, and which is instantly marketable by any number of large and cash-loaded corporate partners, if it did not come with heavy 'baggage'? ...unless, of course Steorn suspects that they a sooo-close to success, yet that the technology is not quite(?)= repeatable? reliable? robust? or whatever... and are praying to St. Patrick for some kind of Irish-luck miracle of insight, to be derived from the assorted experts who have been enticed by the hype, and who are, in effect, giving them free consulting services which they could never otherwise afford. That gambit is the only scenario which makes any sense to me. Jones
[Vo]: Re: : Quantum Thermodynamics
Paul, If you haven't seen this - someone may have mentioned it before - and have the inclination to wade through a hundred pages, which will tell you a lot about the Finn mentality and how they cope with interminable winters... and perhaps even a few pages related to what you have been looking into (p 22-26) have a shot at: http://www.helsinki.fi/~matpitka/faraday.pdf From the scarce amount of data available it would seem that there could be a connection between this putative phenomenon of ambient heat withdrawal, magnetic extropy/entopy and microwave frequencies. This is suggestive of a CMB-tapping mechanism. Jones During the self-sustained mode a cooling of the environment in the vicinity of the magnetic system is observed. A stable fall of the common temperature 22 C of laboratory by 6-8 degrees was observed. This suggests violation of the second law. The sucking of energy from environment by a phase conjugate mechanism could be involved. That phase conjugate waves are involved was proposed also in the article of Dr. Paul la Violette [17]. Phase conjugate microwaves generated by magnetostatic waves are the best candidate for the generalized standing waves (actually rotating around stator magnet). The reason is that for sufficiently long wavelengths the dispersion relation does not depend on wavelength so that arbitrary wave pattern repeats itself periodically with a frequency which is expressible in terms of Larmor frequencies of electron in the fields defined by the magnetization and by the external field (now the field of roller inside stator).
