[Vo]:36,000 people without power in Georgia just now

2014-04-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Things are a mess! No power at office yesterday morning, and the telephone
equipment was hit by lightning and is not functional. Many traffic lights
are off, so commuting is slow.

See:

http://outagemap.georgiapower.com/external/default.html

http://www.ajc.com/news/weather/forecasters-windy-morning-drive-but-diminished-cha/nfk3P/

As I have said, this illustrates the vulnerability of today's energy
systems. Both electricity and gasoline depend on infrastructures that are
easily disrupted. Natural gas is the least vulnerable because the
infrastructure is underground.

Disruptions can come from second or third order events, such as at the
Fukushima reactor, where an earthquake caused a tsunami that destroyed the
backup generator fuel supplies. Years ago I read about nuke in California
that was shut down because a storm along the coastline stirred up the
ocean, which broke off kelp, which clogged the cooling water inlet.

I hope that cold fusion and other future technology can make power,
telecom, and even transportation infrastructure less vulnerable to
disruption. I hope that indoor agriculture and in vitro meat production
will make food and water supplies with no link to natural conditions or
weather. Colonization of the moon or Mars would help that about, as Arthur
Clarke pointed out long ago.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:36,000 people without power in Georgia just now

2014-04-30 Thread ChemE Stewart
Right now, I think we are worse off than the dinosaurs, at least they knew
how to scavenge.  If we lose power for an extended period of time due to a
natural disaster we are hosed.


On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Things are a mess! No power at office yesterday morning, and the telephone
 equipment was hit by lightning and is not functional. Many traffic lights
 are off, so commuting is slow.

 See:

 http://outagemap.georgiapower.com/external/default.html


 http://www.ajc.com/news/weather/forecasters-windy-morning-drive-but-diminished-cha/nfk3P/

 As I have said, this illustrates the vulnerability of today's energy
 systems. Both electricity and gasoline depend on infrastructures that are
 easily disrupted. Natural gas is the least vulnerable because the
 infrastructure is underground.

 Disruptions can come from second or third order events, such as at the
 Fukushima reactor, where an earthquake caused a tsunami that destroyed the
 backup generator fuel supplies. Years ago I read about nuke in California
 that was shut down because a storm along the coastline stirred up the
 ocean, which broke off kelp, which clogged the cooling water inlet.

 I hope that cold fusion and other future technology can make power,
 telecom, and even transportation infrastructure less vulnerable to
 disruption. I hope that indoor agriculture and in vitro meat production
 will make food and water supplies with no link to natural conditions or
 weather. Colonization of the moon or Mars would help that about, as Arthur
 Clarke pointed out long ago.

 - Jed




Re: [Vo]:36,000 people without power in Georgia just now

2014-04-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:

Right now, I think we are worse off than the dinosaurs, at least they knew
 how to scavenge.  If we lose power for an extended period of time due to a
 natural disaster we are hosed.


Winston Churchill described that in his 1932 essay, Fifty Years Hence. I
can dig up the quote here once the power comes back. (Irony!) In essence he
said population density has risen, urban density has risen, and technology
which was once a luxury such as electricity was now necessary for survival.

I think that modern technology has become more robust, and survivable, but
the dollar cost remains high. I mean that it is easily disrupted, but the
disruptions are easily and swiftly repaired. The power companies have large
number of trucks which they dispatch at any time of day or night. You pay
for all those trucks and skilled crews in your electric bill. As I said, I
expect that future technology will grow less and less dependent on nature,
until it can be used off-planet with no links to production centers, with
whatever raw materials you find on the moon or Mars.

In the 19th century people did know how to get along without help from
large organizations from the cities, or without infrastructure. On the
other hand, they often did not get along. They died.

During the Civil War, Sherman's campaign from Tennessee through Georgia was
largely a fight over infrastructure: first the railroads, then factories
and farms. In the first phase, Sherman depended on the railroad from
Chattanooga to Atlanta. His troops would have starved or run out of
ammunition without it. He needed as many soldiers defending the rail line
and rebuilding after Confederate attacks as he had fighting. In earlier
wars, rivers and roads were the lines of supply and communication, and less
vulnerable to disruption by enemy troops. After taking Atlanta, Sherman
decided to send all wounded and disabled troops home on the rail link, then
he deliberately destroyed the rail line, freeing up the troops that were
guarding it. He then foraged from Atlanta to Savannah and through the
Carolinas. This was a revolutionary strategy. The Confederate armies did
not expect it. They had gone west and north, hoping to lure him to follow.
They did not think a modern army could survive by foraging. They knew there
was food, but they thought Sherman's army would run short of horses and
ammunition. It did not, although if it had run against major opposition it
might have. The soldiers carried 200 rounds each. Sherman was a master at
evasion, feint, and what is called horns of the dilemma tactic where the
enemy cannot tell where you are going, and you go wherever it does not
concentrate.  You destroy the weaker forces, in detail. See: B. Alexander,
How Great Generals Win. In my opinion, Sherman was the best general on
either side of the Civil War. If the other Union generals had used his
tactics, it would have saved a hundred thousand lives. Sherman won by
destroying property, barns and railroads, and thereby spared the lives of
soldiers on both sides. He destroyed two enemy armies mainly by disrupting
and confusing them, and cutting them off from supplies, rather than by
killing them in direct attacks.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:36,000 people without power in Georgia just now

2014-04-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Winston Churchill described that in his 1932 essay, Fifty Years Hence. I
 can dig up the quote here once the power comes back.

Careful quoting WC:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2614834/Arrested-quoting-Winston-Churchill-European-election-candidate-accused-religious-racial-harassment-repeats-wartime-prime-ministers-words-Islam-campaign-speech.html