[Vo]:A question about patents…

2011-05-08 Thread Axil Axil
A question about patents…



If the nickel catalyst turns out to be pure nickel nano-powder, but
processed and prepared in a special way…



Let’s say it is bombarded with fast high energy ions that produce many
defects in the lattice structure of nickel nano-powder. Is the powder
patentable or is the ion processing of the powder.



If the same ion processing is done to copper nano-powder, is a separate
patent needed to protest the IP of the nano-powder for that element or
should the patent be used to protect the ion treatment of all metal
nano-powders?


[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:A question about patents…

2011-05-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:


 Let’s say it is bombarded with fast high energy ions that produce many
 defects in the lattice structure of nickel nano-powder. Is the powder
 patentable or is the ion processing of the powder.



 If the same ion processing is done to copper nano-powder, is a separate
 patent needed to protest the IP of the nano-powder for that element or
 should the patent be used to protect the ion treatment of all metal
 nano-powders?


I believe that depends on who writes the patent, and how good a job they do.
There are broad patents and narrow patents.

Questions like this will probably launch a thousand lawsuits no matter who
wrote the patent.

In the discussions between Rossi's patent attorney and the patent office,
you see the attorney raising nit-picking narrow objections to Arata's
patent, to narrow the scope of it, and reduce the share of royalties that
Arata would get. He claims that Arata said this but not that, so his patent
application is narrow. For example, as I recall, he said something about
Arata never said it was a *metal* cell, he just said 'a cell.'

I do not recall where I read Rossi's patent attorney's arguments. They are
part of the public record. They are revealing.

- Jed


[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:A question about patents…

2011-05-08 Thread Jay Caplan
The ion processing of powders is the work seeking protection, the element used 
would not be limiting. 

The burden is whether this particular processing would be obvious to someone 
schooled in the art. In that case, no patent would issue.
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  A question about patents…



  If the nickel catalyst turns out to be pure nickel nano-powder, but processed 
and prepared in a special way…



  Let’s say it is bombarded with fast high energy ions that produce many 
defects in the lattice structure of nickel nano-powder. Is the powder 
patentable or is the ion processing of the powder.



  If the same ion processing is done to copper nano-powder, is a separate 
patent needed to protest the IP of the nano-powder for that element or should 
the patent be used to protect the ion treatment of all metal nano-powders?