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bob cook: I admire you suggestions of magnetism and Pd. I have much data to support your id\ Brian Ahern Acton MA From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2023 8:09 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects-added comments 1. Coupling in the LENR Pd grains is by the magnetic field present throughout the entangled grains of Pd-D. 2. Spin energy and related angular momentum can only exist in multiple quanta of spin—h/2pi. (Planck made this observation in the 19th century. ) 3. Space may also be quantized at the Planck constant scale—10-35 meters. –foam-like space intrinsically endowed with a constant magnetic permeability. 4. 3-d cubic dimensions merge into 1-d spherical space at this small scale. Quantum Magazine addresses this geometric weirdness in a paper by computer scientists earlier this month. https://www.quantamagazine.org/mathematicians-complete-quest-to-build-spherical-cubes-20230210/ AND https://www.quantamagazine.org/quantum-field-theory-pries-open-mathematical-puzzle-20230216/?mc_cid=e8e39e38e1_eid=1c22739553 Bob Cook From: Andrew Meulenberg<mailto:mules...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 11:45 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>; Andrew Meulenberg<mailto:mules...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects Jed, Do we get a chance to see what other projects were proposed (at least titles)? It may be that these eight were the best of a poor selection. On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 10:04 AM Jed Rothwell mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com>> wrote: I put this DoE announcement in the LENR-CANR.org News section. Today I added this somewhat pessimistic note: Some cold fusion researchers feel that these eight projects were poorly chosen. The goals are framed as if cold fusion is the same as plasma fusion. People made this mistake in 1989. For example, several projects focus on neutrons. The first one says, “University of Michigan will provide capability to measure hypothetical neutron, gamma, and ion emissions from LENR experiments.” Some cold fusion experiments have produced neutrons, but most do not. It seems likely that neutrons are a secondary effect with a prosaic cause such as fractofusion, rather than being a primary signature of the reaction. Excess heat correlated with helium, or tritium production, can occur without neutrons, so looking for neutrons is not a fruitful way to detect or analyze a cold fusion reaction.
RE: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects-added comments
1. Coupling in the LENR Pd grains is by the magnetic field present throughout the entangled grains of Pd-D. 2. Spin energy and related angular momentum can only exist in multiple quanta of spin—h/2pi. (Planck made this observation in the 19th century. ) 3. Space may also be quantized at the Planck constant scale—10-35 meters. –foam-like space intrinsically endowed with a constant magnetic permeability. 4. 3-d cubic dimensions merge into 1-d spherical space at this small scale. Quantum Magazine addresses this geometric weirdness in a paper by computer scientists earlier this month. https://www.quantamagazine.org/mathematicians-complete-quest-to-build-spherical-cubes-20230210/ AND https://www.quantamagazine.org/quantum-field-theory-pries-open-mathematical-puzzle-20230216/?mc_cid=e8e39e38e1_eid=1c22739553 Bob Cook From: Andrew Meulenberg<mailto:mules...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 11:45 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>; Andrew Meulenberg<mailto:mules...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects Jed, Do we get a chance to see what other projects were proposed (at least titles)? It may be that these eight were the best of a poor selection. On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 10:04 AM Jed Rothwell mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com>> wrote: I put this DoE announcement in the LENR-CANR.org News section. Today I added this somewhat pessimistic note: Some cold fusion researchers feel that these eight projects were poorly chosen. The goals are framed as if cold fusion is the same as plasma fusion. People made this mistake in 1989. For example, several projects focus on neutrons. The first one says, “University of Michigan will provide capability to measure hypothetical neutron, gamma, and ion emissions from LENR experiments.” Some cold fusion experiments have produced neutrons, but most do not. It seems likely that neutrons are a secondary effect with a prosaic cause such as fractofusion, rather than being a primary signature of the reaction. Excess heat correlated with helium, or tritium production, can occur without neutrons, so looking for neutrons is not a fruitful way to detect or analyze a cold fusion reaction.
RE: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects
JED AND ANDREW-- >From 1989 on I considered that the absence of neutrons in LENR indicated >there was no linear momentum involved in the reaction. Only rotational energy and related angular momentum was involved IN LENR. Furthermore. a significant new energy seen as atomic phonic heat was apparent . Did the entangled metallic Pd grain merely give up nuclear spin energy to the [spin state of the Pd atomic electrons? Per the First and Second laws of TD this reaction should occur if entropie increases. since the kinetic (spin) energy is less Bob From: Andrew Meulenberg<mailto:mules...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 11:45 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>; Andrew Meulenberg<mailto:mules...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects Jed, Do we get a chance to see what other projects were proposed (at least titles)? It may be that these eight were the best of a poor selection. On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 10:04 AM Jed Rothwell mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com>> wrote: I put this DoE announcement in the LENR-CANR.org News section. Today I added this somewhat pessimistic note: Some cold fusion researchers feel that these eight projects were poorly chosen. The goals are framed as if cold fusion is the same as plasma fusion. People made this mistake in 1989. For example, several projects focus on neutrons. The first one says, “University of Michigan will provide capability to measure hypothetical neutron, gamma, and ion emissions from LENR experiments.” Some cold fusion experiments have produced neutrons, but most do not. It seems likely that neutrons are a secondary effect with a prosaic cause such as fractofusion, rather than being a primary signature of the reaction. Excess heat correlated with helium, or tritium production, can occur without neutrons, so looking for neutrons is not a fruitful way to detect or analyze a cold fusion reaction.
Re: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects
Andrew Meulenberg wrote: > Do we get a chance to see what other projects were proposed (at least > titles)? It may be that these eight were the best of a poor selection. > I did not see any list of proposed projects. Perhaps there was one? I was not following the story closely. Someone on the "Teeming Partners" list told me he applied for that list, but he never applied for a grant, because he is not qualified. I saw the application form. It was far too complex for an individual researcher such as Ed Storms to fill out. You would have to have a staff and probably a lawyer or two. It was the sort of thing only a big national lab or university could handle. Someone else commented that the DoE goal was to emphasize nuclear measurements and downplay heat. I don't recall the DoE saying that, but it sounds like the kind of thing they would say, and it describes the projects they selected. That is a stupid policy because "heat is the principal signature of the reaction" (Fleischmann). If you don't have heat, you don't have cold fusion, so there is no point to looking for anything else. The evidence they seem most interested in is neutrons. That's probably backwards. Neutrons indicate there is no cold fusion reaction. I think they are often caused by fractofusion, which is a prosaic phonomenon. Suppose you are doing a bulk-Pd experiment. Fractofusion indicates the material is fracturing from high loading, which means it probably will not produce the cold fusion effect. The neutrons are telling you that the experiment is not working. The only way you can tell it is working is to detect heat or tritium, and if you do, it is likely there will be no fractofusion and no neutrons.
Re: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects
Jed, Do we get a chance to see what other projects were proposed (at least titles)? It may be that these eight were the best of a poor selection. On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 10:04 AM Jed Rothwell wrote: > I put this DoE announcement in the LENR-CANR.org News section. Today I > added this somewhat pessimistic note: > > Some cold fusion researchers feel that these eight projects were poorly > chosen. The goals are framed as if cold fusion is the same as plasma > fusion. People made this mistake in 1989. For example, several projects > focus on neutrons. The first one says, “University of Michigan will provide > capability to measure hypothetical neutron, gamma, and ion emissions from > LENR experiments.” Some cold fusion experiments have produced neutrons, but > most do not. It seems likely that neutrons are a secondary effect with a > prosaic cause such as fractofusion, rather than being a primary signature > of the reaction. Excess heat correlated with helium, or tritium production, > can occur without neutrons, so looking for neutrons is not a fruitful way > to detect or analyze a cold fusion reaction. >
Re: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects
Related to this, here is the DoE ARPA-E list of 39 Teeming Partners who are working on cold fusion. The heading on this list says: *“By enabling and publishing the Teaming Partner List, ARPA-E is not endorsing, sponsoring, or otherwise evaluating the qualifications of the individuals and organizations that are self-identifying themselves for placement on this Teaming Partner List.”* https://arpa-e-foa.energy.gov/TeamingPartners.aspx?foaid=818bc746-84d3-4afc-bd17-bc7a7f05fb2f
Re: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects
I put this DoE announcement in the LENR-CANR.org News section. Today I added this somewhat pessimistic note: Some cold fusion researchers feel that these eight projects were poorly chosen. The goals are framed as if cold fusion is the same as plasma fusion. People made this mistake in 1989. For example, several projects focus on neutrons. The first one says, “University of Michigan will provide capability to measure hypothetical neutron, gamma, and ion emissions from LENR experiments.” Some cold fusion experiments have produced neutrons, but most do not. It seems likely that neutrons are a secondary effect with a prosaic cause such as fractofusion, rather than being a primary signature of the reaction. Excess heat correlated with helium, or tritium production, can occur without neutrons, so looking for neutrons is not a fruitful way to detect or analyze a cold fusion reaction.
Re: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects
whoops... 33 years On Sat, 18 Feb 2023, 15:47 Nicholas Palmer, < greendirectionconsult...@googlemail.com> wrote: > This looks exciting - after 40 years > > Nick Palmer > > On the side of the Planet - and the people - because they're worth it > > > On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 14:19, Jed Rothwell wrote: > >> U.S. Department of Energy Announces $10 Million in Funding to Projects >> Studying Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions >> >> ARPA-E Selects 8 Projects to Apply Scientific and Rigorous Approach >> Focused on Specific Type of Nuclear Energy >> >> 02/17/2023 >> >> >> https://arpa-e.energy.gov/news-and-media/press-releases/us-department-energy-announces-10-million-funding-projects-studying >> >> More details: >> >> >> https://arpa-e.energy.gov/sites/default/files/documents/files/LENR%20Project%20Descriptions%20FINAL.pdf >> >> Recipients include: >> >> Amphionic (Dexter, MI >> Energetics Technology Center (Indian Head, MD) >> Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley, CA) >> Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Cambridge, MA) >> Stanford University (Redwood City, CA) >> Texas Tech University (Lubbock, TX) >> University of Michigan (Ann Arbor, MI) >> University of Michigan (Ann Arbor, MI) >> >>
Re: [Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects
This looks exciting - after 40 years Nick Palmer On the side of the Planet - and the people - because they're worth it On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 14:19, Jed Rothwell wrote: > U.S. Department of Energy Announces $10 Million in Funding to Projects > Studying Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions > > ARPA-E Selects 8 Projects to Apply Scientific and Rigorous Approach > Focused on Specific Type of Nuclear Energy > > 02/17/2023 > > > https://arpa-e.energy.gov/news-and-media/press-releases/us-department-energy-announces-10-million-funding-projects-studying > > More details: > > > https://arpa-e.energy.gov/sites/default/files/documents/files/LENR%20Project%20Descriptions%20FINAL.pdf > > Recipients include: > > Amphionic (Dexter, MI > Energetics Technology Center (Indian Head, MD) > Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley, CA) > Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Cambridge, MA) > Stanford University (Redwood City, CA) > Texas Tech University (Lubbock, TX) > University of Michigan (Ann Arbor, MI) > University of Michigan (Ann Arbor, MI) > >
[Vo]:ARPA-E announces funding for 8 cold fusion projects
U.S. Department of Energy Announces $10 Million in Funding to Projects Studying Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions ARPA-E Selects 8 Projects to Apply Scientific and Rigorous Approach Focused on Specific Type of Nuclear Energy 02/17/2023 https://arpa-e.energy.gov/news-and-media/press-releases/us-department-energy-announces-10-million-funding-projects-studying More details: https://arpa-e.energy.gov/sites/default/files/documents/files/LENR%20Project%20Descriptions%20FINAL.pdf Recipients include: Amphionic (Dexter, MI Energetics Technology Center (Indian Head, MD) Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley, CA) Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Cambridge, MA) Stanford University (Redwood City, CA) Texas Tech University (Lubbock, TX) University of Michigan (Ann Arbor, MI) University of Michigan (Ann Arbor, MI)
