[Vo]:About the financing of the E-cat

2011-09-22 Thread Mattia Rizzi
Inside this artcle we have many info ([link suppressed, it's a link to an
interview of Rossi done by Lewan at march]):

“*I am assuming all the risks*. No one is risking any money except me,”
said the Italian engineer Andrea Rossi
“I get paid (by Defkalion) only when the installation is delivered and if it
works.* I do not want people to spend any money until I have started and
tested my one-megawatt plant*,” said Rossi.
“The 500,000 Euros I am paying to the University of Bologna *is my last
money*, but when I deliver the one-megawatt plant to Defkalion I get cash
back. From then on, 50% will be used for expansion and 50% to treat children
with cancer. I will personally look for the children whose families cannot
afford their care,” said Andrea Rossi.

So,
1) No payment until the one-MW-pant
2) All risk to Rossi
3) His *own* money to UniBO

Daniele Passerini, inside the comments of his blog, wrote that:
1) Rossi was wating from Defkalion a payment of  500.000€ for his technology
2) Rossi will then use this money to pay the RD at UniBO

These are the original sentences:
*“Per onorare i 500.000€ da versare a UniBO Rossi faceva affidamento su un
versamento (di analogo importo) che Defkalion si era a sua volta
contrattualmente vincolata a pagare a Rossi.”*
*“Parliamo di quelli che Defkalion doveva dargli entro maggio per lo
sfruttamento della tecnologia.”*
“*ho sentito chiaramente che Rossi si lamentava che i Greci non avevano
rispettato la scadenza e che non gli avevano dato i soldi entro il termine
massimo previsto (maggio)”*
**
Source: [link suppressed]

I've suppresed links because it get by anti-spam.
I will send it after a while


Re: [Vo]:About the financing of the E-cat

2011-09-22 Thread Mattia Rizzi
Somebody read it? It seems blocked by an antispam...

2011/9/22 Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com

 Inside this artcle we have many info ([link suppressed, it's a link to
 an interview of Rossi done by Lewan at march]):

 “I am assuming all the risks. No one is risking any money except me,”
 said the Italian engineer Andrea Rossi
 “I get paid (by Defkalion) only when the installation is delivered and
 if it works. *I do not want people to spend any money* until I have started
 and tested my one-megawatt plant,” said Rossi.
 “The 500,000 Euros I am paying to the University of Bologna is my last
 money, but when I deliver the one-megawatt plant to Defkalion I get cash
 back. From then on, 50% will be used for expansion and 50% to treat children
 with cancer. I will personally look for the children whose families cannot
 afford their care,” said Andrea Rossi.

 So,
 1) No payment until the one-MW-pant
 2) All risk to Rossi
 3) His *own* money to UniBO

 Daniele Passerini, inside the comments of his blog, wrote that:
 1) Rossi was wating from Defkalion a payment of  500.000€ for his
 technology
 2) Rossi will then use this money to pay the RD at UniBO

 These are the original sentences:
 “Per onorare i 500.000€ da versare a UniBO Rossi faceva affidamento su
 un versamento (di analogo importo) che Defkalion si era a sua volta
 contrattualmente vincolata a pagare a Rossi.”
 “Parliamo di quelli che Defkalion doveva dargli entro maggio per lo
 sfruttamento della tecnologia.”
 “ho sentito chiaramente che Rossi si lamentava che i Greci non avevano
 rispettato la scadenza e che non gli avevano dato i soldi entro il termine
 massimo previsto (maggio)”

 Source: [link suppressed]

 I've suppresed links because it get by anti-spam.
 I will send it after a while

 I've suppresed links because it get by anti-spam.
 I will send it after a while




Re: [Vo]:About the financing of the E-cat

2011-09-22 Thread Daniel Rocha
I've already read 3 posts from you with the same message above...


Re: [Vo]:About the financing of the E-cat

2011-09-22 Thread Mattia Rizzi
Ok sorry

2011/9/22 Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com

 I've already read 3 posts from you with the same message above...


Re: [Vo]:About the financing of the E-cat

2011-09-22 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
More info:

Heading: Rossi's Home Sacrificed for Cold Fusion E-Cat Launch

http://pesn.com/2011/09/21/9501918_Rossis_Home_Sacrificed_For_Cold_Fusion_E-Cat_Launch/

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:About the financing of the E-cat

2011-09-22 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
This is a nice story of a dedicated inventor making large sacrifices in 
the zealous pursuit of his vision, but is there really any reason to 
believe it?


Rossi has not exactly been a pinnacle of truth in the past.

Absent more information I'd tend to lump it in with the tale of the 
factory which was heated for two years with a Rossi device.  A nice 
story, as I said... with regard to the factory, it's just too bad no 
former employees chimed in on Rossi's blog to exclaim over the nifty 
heating plant!



On 11-09-22 01:17 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:

More info:

Heading: Rossi's Home Sacrificed for Cold Fusion E-Cat Launch

http://pesn.com/2011/09/21/9501918_Rossis_Home_Sacrificed_For_Cold_Fusion_E-Cat_Launch/

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks






Re: [Vo]:About the financing of the E-cat

2011-09-22 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Stephen,

 This is a nice story of a dedicated inventor making large sacrifices in the
 zealous pursuit of his vision, but is there really any reason to believe it?

 Rossi has not exactly been a pinnacle of truth in the past.

 Absent more information I'd tend to lump it in with the tale of the factory
 which was heated for two years with a Rossi device.  A nice story, as I
 said... with regard to the factory, it's just too bad no former employees
 chimed in on Rossi's blog to exclaim over the nifty heating plant!

 http://pesn.com/2011/09/21/9501918_Rossis_Home_Sacrificed_For_Cold_Fusion_E-Cat_Launch/

Without a doubt the Pure Energy System web site is Rossi Friendly.
Actually, the site is friendly towards a LOT of exotic alternate
energy claims. They also claim recovered technology from crashed UFOs
has been deliberately suppressed by world governments. IOW, the web
site is not likely to be considered a reliable source of information
by those possessing a more conservative POV concerning physics. As for
me, being a tad liberal in many of my POVs, I might be a little
sympathetic to the idea that certain technologies may very well have
been deliberately suppressed, but that is a topic of discussion for a
different post. ;-)

In my view the Pure Energy Systems web site is an advocate for
alternative energy systems and for the inventors who are trying to
develop them. They operate in pretty much the same manner that certain
web sites advocate for the manifestation of certain political goals,
such as those expressed by either the Republican or Democratic
parties.

Being an advocate is neither good nor bad. It's simply the objective
that those in charge of Pure Energy Systems site have chosen to
pursue.

Take the web site's advocate-ness for what it is and read between the lines.

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks