Re: [Vo]:Another Irish FE Firm?
The Anomalous Magnetization of Iron and Steel, B. Osgood Peirce 1912: https://www.jstor.org/stable/20022770?seq=2 The effects seem to pertain to high dv/dt impulses however.. not to mention antique metallurgical samples (the high-Sv kind). Modern electrical steels OTOH are designed to be high-mu, high-freq and hence low-Sv inductors with minimal remanence / retentivity. Anomalous self-induction must be arising under some very a-typical circumstances if no one's noticed it previously.. and we're not talking micro-teslas here, he's claiming a 400 - 500% gain in flux density, sufficient to turn a gennie.. The claim seems eminently falsifiable though, reducing to this singular putative exploit - whatever the specific grade of material he's sourcing will have a B/H graph in its spec sheet, since this is its whole raison d'etre, the very properties it's designed and purposed for. So, find out exactly which material it is, download the spec sheet, and check for a sudden 500% jump halfway up the B/H plot that nobody else but this genius PhD has noticed for some reason, square in the middle of its designed operating range there. Job done, next..
Re: [Vo]:Another Irish FE Firm?
> Think of little magnets arranged end to end. NSNSNS etc. Not only do they > attract but the field is cumulative, and as it > get stronger it "convinces" other magnets to align the same way. Variability of domain pinning strengths (individual domain wall coercivities) is one cause of Sv per Rutherford 1895, as harder-pinned ones give way to the growing induced B of their weaker-pinned neighbors, this process requiring finite time. However, this obvs won't induce a stronger magnetisation density than that of the applied field.. (a feat that might seem to imply coercivity or permeability are going into negative territory) This same point about B-max being a limited function of applied H applies equally to spontaneously-forming dipole chains.. but in a 3D matrix neighboring aligned domains are in cross-feild alignment, like little magnets stacked side-by-side same-end up, hence a mutually-repulsive stressed higher-energy state - not unlike storing elastic potential energy in the intramolecular bonds where these orbitals are aligning; this is part of the input work done against coercivity in ferromagnetic materials, and why the remanance has a Curie point. This is why it's an issue; though it may cost nothing in principle merely to render a force field, if it then performs displacement then work (F*d) is being done, hence runaway self-induction raises free PE. Colour me skeptical anyhoos.
Re: [Vo]:Another Irish FE Firm?
Thanks, Jones...Danzik was what I was trying to remember, along with the Earth Engine. How do you do that with the neurons you have left? On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 4:33 PM Jones Beene wrote: > Very similar to the Dennis Danzig "Earth Engine" scam of a few years back. > > ... or Steorn. > > > > Terry Blanton wrote: > > > So does anyone know about these folks? They make me think of Steorn but > with credentials. > > https://holcombenergysystems.com/about-us/the-team/ > > THE TECHNOLOGY > The HES utilizes the natural energy produced by the electron spin in the > iron atom, converting it into usable electricity. Through a total redesign > of the classic electric power generator, the HES: > >- uses no fuel >- puts out no emissions >- runs totally silent >- produces no heat >- requires virtually no maintenance >- And the HES is scalable anywhere electricity is needed. > > Hmmm >
Re: [Vo]:Another Irish FE Firm?
There is huge pent-up demand for cheap and carbon-free electrical power these days, and gullible investors are constantly being fooled. PT Barnum underestimated. Holcomb Energy's technical claims may be unsophisticated to the point of being laughable but they will find a few suckers. Holcomb even found/married his version of the pretty face who can dish out the tech-talk -- as Elizabeth Holmes apparently showed how this tactic helps. The litany of past patent lawsuits - another red flag. Looking back a couple of years - the Danzik scam reeled in the Wall Street Journal. There is some similarity. https://www.wsj.com/articles/one-mans-unlikely-quest-to-power-the-world-with-magnets-11558029179 Shame on the WSJ for sloppy journalism. Doubt if they will jump in on this one too. Caveat emptor
Re: [Vo]:Another Irish FE Firm?
In reply to Vibrator !'s message of Mon, 25 Apr 2022 23:16:20 +0100: Hi, [snip] >The guy's claiming that induced B in 'electrical steel' climbs to 500% of >applied H. Think of little magnets arranged end to end. NSNSNS etc. Not only do they attract but the field is cumulative, and as it get stronger it "convinces" other magnets to align the same way. [snip] If no one clicked on ads companies would stop paying for them. :)
[Vo]:Another Irish FE Firm?
The guy's claiming that induced B in 'electrical steel' climbs to 500% of applied H. He's basically claiming runaway self-induction, apparently as an inherent property of this material. So what to make of it? Applying an H field induces a B field, giving their combined field density M, or net magnetisation. If the H field is active as from a coil or solenoid, Lenz's law applies and any change in induced B applies back-EMF to the coil, thus loading its power supply. If the H field is passive however as from a permanent magnet, then the change in induced B is thermodynamically 'free' - work is being done in reducing the system entropy aligning domains, by absorbing phonons within the material - one half of the magnetocaloric effect - and obvs, either way (active or passive) at absolute zero no change in B is possible, so it looks like we're not necessarily in controversial territory invoking ambient heat as a potential source in a case of anomalous self-induction; we could even invoke Sv in an example: place a small neo onto a piece of rough iron with appreciable Sv, maybe amp it up to listen in on the Barkhausen jumps as induced B starts to rise; point is, induced B is rising AFTER all input motion has ceased, hence where's the energy coming from to align the domains against their mutual repulsion? Because a magnetised material is in a stressed state.. a higher energy state. Yet if that energy isn't coming from Mr Hand, then it's obvs environmental. 2LoT be damned. In certain circumstances, anyway. So the only remaining question is: how could B rise significantly higher than applied H? The question no longer where the energy's coming from, so much as the magnetising field? IE. even if we allow it free energy, how can the induced field be 5x denser than the applied field? What property might 'electrical steel' have that could facilitate a runaway self-magnetisation?
Re: [Vo]:Another Irish FE Firm?
Here's some interesting and colorful background on the principal "inventor" Dr Roberet Ray Holcomb: https://casetext.com/case/in-re-holcomb-health-care-services On 4/25/2022 2:47 PM, Robin wrote: In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 25 Apr 2022 20:32:24 + (UTC): Hi, [snip] Very similar to the Dennis Danzig "Earth Engine" scam of a few years back. ... or Steorn.
Re: [Vo]:Another Irish FE Firm?
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 25 Apr 2022 20:32:24 + (UTC): Hi, [snip] > Very similar to the Dennis Danzig "Earth Engine" scam of a few years back. > >... or Steorn. > > He appears to confuse magnetic field strength with energy. However, that said, perhaps it works in a similar way to magnetic refrigeration? I wonder if the air around the device gets cooler while it's running (assuming that it runs at all). Otherwise he may be tapping into the ZPE, but in that case I would also expect a cooling effect. If no one clicked on ads companies would stop paying for them. :)
Re: [Vo]:Another Irish FE Firm?
Very similar to the Dennis Danzig "Earth Engine" scam of a few years back. ... or Steorn. Terry Blanton wrote: So does anyone know about these folks? They make me think of Steorn but with credentials. https://holcombenergysystems.com/about-us/the-team/ THE TECHNOLOGY The HES utilizes the natural energy produced by the electron spin in the iron atom, converting it into usable electricity. Through a total redesign of the classic electric power generator, the HES: - uses no fuel - puts out no emissions - runs totally silent - produces no heat - requires virtually no maintenance - And the HES is scalable anywhere electricity is needed. Hmmm
[Vo]:Another Irish FE Firm?
So does anyone know about these folks? They make me think of Steorn but with credentials. https://holcombenergysystems.com/about-us/the-team/ THE TECHNOLOGY The HES utilizes the natural energy produced by the electron spin in the iron atom, converting it into usable electricity. Through a total redesign of the classic electric power generator, the HES: - uses no fuel - puts out no emissions - runs totally silent - produces no heat - requires virtually no maintenance - And the HES is scalable anywhere electricity is needed. Hmmm
