[Vo]:Another lie from Rossi: 1MW plant was at bologna in the first day of november
Here is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqhXotcu5hsfeature=player_embedded You can see the 1MW plant. I've contacted the author: the video footage was taken in the first day of november Rossi said that the 1MW plat was gone before 30 October.
Re: [Vo]:Another lie from Rossi: 1MW plant was at bologna in the first day of november
*first days of November 2012/1/22 Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com Here is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqhXotcu5hsfeature=player_embedded You can see the 1MW plant. I've contacted the author: the video footage was taken in the first day of november Rossi said that the 1MW plat was gone before 30 October.
Re: [Vo]:Another lie from Rossi: 1MW plant was at bologna in the first day of november
This is a little confusing. Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the video: . . . An interview with Focardi and Rossi, in Italian. What is this? Was it broadcast on TV? Please enlighten those of us who do not speak Italian. You can see the 1MW plant. Right. Rossi is standing in front of it. I've contacted the author: the video footage was taken in the [first days of November] Rossi said that the 1MW plat was gone before 30 October. Okay, so he wasn't hiding the fact that the reactor was still sitting there. He wasn't pretending he had shipped it. On his blog he said he had shipped it, but that's not true. So why is this such a big deal? Was it reported in the mass media that he claimed it was shipped? Has his customer accused him of not shipping in violation of contract? It is either minor confusion or a minor lie. Minor compared to the usual level of chaos that Rossi sows when he opens his mouth. This incident sent AussiGuy into a tizzy. I told him I do not understand why, because anyone who has dealt with Rossi knows he does this kind of thing several times a day. Look at the list of contradictions that Akira and I ferreted out: http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Andrea_A._Rossi_Cold_Fusion_Generator:Rossi%27s_Hints Inescapable Conclusion #1: This person is not a consistent or reliable source of information. He often changes his tune. Are we agreed on that yet? Anyone who doubts should please review that list. Since we established that nearly a year ago, I think it is time to move on. Accept Rossi for who and what he is. Try to make sense of his claims based mainly on independent observations and replications, and on other people's work, such as Piantelli's. Stop carrying on about his personality! Grow up. He is not going to change. He will not publish a paper. He will not explain anything. He will never allow tests. He said he never will, and he meant it. He does not change his mind about stuff like this. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Another lie from Rossi: 1MW plant was at bologna in the first day of november
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: Try to make sense of his claims based mainly on independent observations and replications That would be ever so much easier if you would bother to say who they are and have them tell what they did and where they published the results. He will never allow tests. There's a confidence builder for sure.
RE: [Vo]:Another lie from Rossi: 1MW plant was at bologna in the first day of november
/snip/ It is either minor confusion or a minor lie. Minor compared to the usual level of chaos that Rossi sows when he opens his mouth. This incident sent AussiGuy into a tizzy. I told him I do not understand why, because anyone who has dealt with Rossi knows he does this kind of thing several times a day. Look at the list of contradictions that Akira and I ferreted out: /snip/ What I perceived from Aussie Guy was that he felt scammed. Regardless of any alleged past transgressions, it must such to feel like you're on the receiving end. I think he genuinely believes in the technology, and thought he was on the brink of making a fortune from Rossi's product. We don't know what person communications transpired between them, but I think his impression of BBB customer delivery consisted of more than a single affirmative on Rossi's blog. He was getting some info from the horse's mouth. His reaction was that of someone betrayed. It doesn't seem all black-and-white. Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 14:58:22 -0500 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Another lie from Rossi: 1MW plant was at bologna in the first day of november From: jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com This is a little confusing. Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the video: . . . An interview with Focardi and Rossi, in Italian. What is this? Was it broadcast on TV? Please enlighten those of us who do not speak Italian. You can see the 1MW plant. Right. Rossi is standing in front of it. I've contacted the author: the video footage was taken in the [first days of November] Rossi said that the 1MW plat was gone before 30 October. Okay, so he wasn't hiding the fact that the reactor was still sitting there. He wasn't pretending he had shipped it. On his blog he said he had shipped it, but that's not true. So why is this such a big deal? Was it reported in the mass media that he claimed it was shipped? Has his customer accused him of not shipping in violation of contract? It is either minor confusion or a minor lie. Minor compared to the usual level of chaos that Rossi sows when he opens his mouth. This incident sent AussiGuy into a tizzy. I told him I do not understand why, because anyone who has dealt with Rossi knows he does this kind of thing several times a day. Look at the list of contradictions that Akira and I ferreted out: http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Andrea_A._Rossi_Cold_Fusion_Generator:Rossi%27s_Hints Inescapable Conclusion #1: This person is not a consistent or reliable source of information. He often changes his tune. Are we agreed on that yet? Anyone who doubts should please review that list. Since we established that nearly a year ago, I think it is time to move on. Accept Rossi for who and what he is. Try to make sense of his claims based mainly on independent observations and replications, and on other people's work, such as Piantelli's. Stop carrying on about his personality! Grow up. He is not going to change. He will not publish a paper. He will not explain anything. He will never allow tests. He said he never will, and he meant it. He does not change his mind about stuff like this. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Another lie from Rossi: 1MW plant was at bologna in the first day of november
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: We don't know what person communications transpired between them, but I think his impression of BBB customer delivery consisted of more than a single affirmative on Rossi's blog. He was getting some info from the horse's mouth. His reaction was that of someone betrayed. It doesn't seem all black-and-white. Good point. Perhaps Rossi gave him assurances that he had shipped the reactor, during their discussion of a business deal. I said that none of us here have any reason to be upset because we are not customers. AG was trying to become a customer! Poor guy. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Another lie from Rossi: 1MW plant was at bologna in the first day of november
Awww! Poor Aussie Guy (cough splutter choke gasp) From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 22 January 2012 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Another lie from Rossi: 1MW plant was at bologna in the first day of november Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: We don't know what person communications transpired between them, but I think his impression of BBB customer delivery consisted of more than a single affirmative on Rossi's blog. He was getting some info from the horse's mouth. His reaction was that of someone betrayed. It doesn't seem all black-and-white. Good point. Perhaps Rossi gave him assurances that he had shipped the reactor, during their discussion of a business deal. I said that none of us here have any reason to be upset because we are not customers. AG was trying to become a customer! Poor guy. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Another lie from Rossi: 1MW plant was at bologna in the first day of november
On 23/01/2012 5:01 AM, Mattia Rizzi wrote: Here is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqhXotcu5hsfeature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqhXotcu5hsfeature=player_embedded You can see the 1MW plant. I've contacted the author: the video footage was taken in the first day of november Rossi said that the 1MW plat was gone before 30 October. More proof of Rossi's lies and that Lewans, Focardi and Levi were letting him get away with his lies. Shaun
Re: [Vo]:Another lie from Rossi: 1MW plant was at bologna in the first day of november
On 23/01/2012 6:28 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: It is either minor confusion or a minor lie. Minor Lie? WTF? Rossi lied to the world about shipping the words first operational 500 kW LENR reactor to a secret customer and later lied about going there to do the install. Jed what does it take to make you wake up? Rossi places NO VALUE on the truth. You suggest that only relates to his business claims. I say BS. A liar has no respect for the truth, business or technical product specs. There is no differentiation. Rossi is a liar and a fraudster. He has burnt the reputations of Lewans, Focardi and Levi on his fire of ego. Will you be joining them? Shaun
RE: [Vo]:Another lie from Rossi: 1MW plant was at bologna in the first day of november
Hehe...you really are a bit of a drama queen Shaun. Put down the aspartame drink slowly and step away from the keyboard.. Original Message Subject: Re: [Vo]:Another lie from Rossi: 1MW plant was at bologna in the first day of november From: Shaun Taylor shauntaylor...@gmail.com Date: Mon, January 23, 2012 10:05 am To: vortex-l@eskimo.com On 23/01/2012 6:28 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: It is either minor confusion or a minor lie. Minor Lie? WTF? Rossi lied to the world about shipping the words first operational 500 kW LENR reactor to a secret customer and later lied about going there to do the install. Jed what does it take to make you wake up? Rossi places NO VALUE on the truth. You suggest that only relates to his business claims. I say BS. A liar has no respect for the truth, business or technical product specs. There is no differentiation. Rossi is a liar and a fraudster. He has burnt the reputations of Lewans, Focardi and Levi on his fire of ego. Will you be joining them? Shaun
Re: [Vo]:Another lie from Rossi: 1MW plant was at bologna in the first day of november
On 23/01/2012 6:46 AM, Robert Leguillon wrote: /snip/ It is either minor confusion or a minor lie. Minor compared to the usual level of chaos that Rossi sows when he opens his mouth. This incident sent AussiGuy into a tizzy. I told him I do not understand why, because anyone who has dealt with Rossi knows he does this kind of thing several times a day. Look at the list of contradictions that Akira and I ferreted out: /snip/ What I perceived from Aussie Guy was that he felt scammed. Regardless of any alleged past transgressions, it must such to feel like you're on the receiving end. I think he genuinely believes in the technology, and thought he was on the brink of making a fortune from Rossi's product. We don't know what person communications transpired between them, but I think his impression of BBB customer delivery consisted of more than a single affirmative on Rossi's blog. He was getting some info from the horse's mouth. His reaction was that of someone betrayed. It doesn't seem all black-and-white. I agree. Where did Aussie Guy every try to sell anything to anybody? He had a present on several forums. Always the same image. The Ecat is real, he talks to Rossi and it will change the world. Never did I find anywhere he tried to sell anything, despite making it clear he was intending to do so once he had a working Ecat in his possession. I call that being a cautious man. From what I read he came here looking for information on LENR and needed a working LENR to show to others. When the Rossi lie about the BBB not being shipped surfaced, he went mental. His posting on that are there to be read. I believed he thought the Ecat was for real and that he would be able to use it in his business. BUT when the Rossi lie about the BBB surfaced, he knew Rossi was a liar, the Ecat did not work and his world crashed. His fault was he believed the Rossi BS lies and false data. Like others here he was a true believer that Rossi burned at the stake of his lies, false data and ego. Lewans, Focardi, Levi and now Aussie Guy will not be the last Ecat True Believers that Rossi will burn with his commercial lies and false product data. Shaun
