Re: [Vo]:Article: Is dark energy a real thing?

2016-10-26 Thread Che 
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 12:37 AM, David Roberson  wrote:

> Does this mean that a few Nobel prizes were awarded a bit premature?  Are
> they ever recalled once proven in error?
>

All these scientists really deserve the Nobel Prize for Literature.

Because it's all fiction.

Re: [Vo]:Article: Is dark energy a real thing?

2016-10-26 Thread H LV 
​A ​
related
​paper
 from three years ago.

MOND predicts dwarf galaxy feature prior to observations
​http://phys.org/news/2013-08-mond-dwarf-galaxy-feature-prior.html

"At stake now is whether the universe is predominantly made of an invisible
substance that persistently eludes detection in the laboratory, or whether
we are obliged to modify one of our most fundamental theories, the law of
gravity ,"

Harry​




On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 12:14 AM, Eric Walker  wrote:

> The following article describes a study calling into question one
> experiment upon which the notion of dark energy is based:
>
> http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2016/1023/Is-dark-
> energy-a-real-thing-Maybe-not-new-study-suggests
>
> Also of interest, two articles discussing a study that says that the
> rotation of spiral galaxies does not seem to require dark matter (not sure
> whether these have been mentioned before):
>
> http://phys.org/news/2016-09-spiral-irregular-galaxies-current-dark.html
> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/09/160921085052.htm
>
> Eric
>
>

RE: [Vo]:Article: Is dark energy a real thing?

2016-10-26 Thread Jones Beene 
If one applies a bit of common sense physics, and first makes the major 
distinction between dark matter and dark energy … then the inevitable semantics 
problem becomes more focused. Some of the confusion is due to the glaring 
mistake of awarding the Nobel to Perlmutter, Schmidt and Riess. But – think 
about it - many awards are a mistake, in hindsight, and never retracted.

Dark energy has always been controversial, while dark matter has not, yet the 
two are comingled as one. This is because the rate of universal expansion has 
been a strong point of contention, Nobel prize notwithstanding (there were only 
50 data points used to make the case). Now it looks like there is no need for 
dark energy, but still there is a need for dark matter. Even there, the need is 
less since it looks like the number of stars in any galaxy has been grossly 
underestimated in the past.


From: David Roberson 

Does this mean that a few Nobel prizes were awarded a bit premature?  Are they 
ever recalled once proven in error?


-Original Message-
From: Eric Walker 
The following article describes a study calling into question one experiment 
upon which the notion of dark energy is based:

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2016/1023/Is-dark-energy-a-real-thing-Maybe-not-new-study-suggests

Also of interest, two articles discussing a study that says that the rotation 
of spiral galaxies does not seem to require dark matter (not sure whether these 
have been mentioned before):

http://phys.org/news/2016-09-spiral-irregular-galaxies-current-dark.html
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/09/160921085052.htm

Eric

Re: [Vo]:Article: Is dark energy a real thing?

2016-10-25 Thread Eric Walker 
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 11:37 PM, David Roberson  wrote:

Does this mean that a few Nobel prizes were awarded a bit premature?  Are
> they ever recalled once proven in error?
>

It would be very embarrassing for them to have to recall Nobel prizes.  I
wonder whether they would do it.  (Obviously they won't be able to take
back the prize money.)

Eric

Re: [Vo]:Article: Is dark energy a real thing?

2016-10-25 Thread David Roberson 
Does this mean that a few Nobel prizes were awarded a bit premature?  Are they 
ever recalled once proven in error?

Dave

 

 

 

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From: Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wed, Oct 26, 2016 12:21 am
Subject: [Vo]:Article: Is dark energy a real thing?



The following article describes a study calling into question one experiment 
upon which the notion of dark energy is based:


http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2016/1023/Is-dark-energy-a-real-thing-Maybe-not-new-study-suggests



Also of interest, two articles discussing a study that says that the rotation 
of spiral galaxies does not seem to require dark matter (not sure whether these 
have been mentioned before):



http://phys.org/news/2016-09-spiral-irregular-galaxies-current-dark.html
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/09/160921085052.htm



Eric

[Vo]:Article: Is dark energy a real thing?

2016-10-25 Thread Eric Walker 
The following article describes a study calling into question one
experiment upon which the notion of dark energy is based:

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2016/1023/Is-dark-energy-a-real-thing-Maybe-not-new-study-suggests

Also of interest, two articles discussing a study that says that the
rotation of spiral galaxies does not seem to require dark matter (not sure
whether these have been mentioned before):

http://phys.org/news/2016-09-spiral-irregular-galaxies-current-dark.html
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/09/160921085052.htm

Eric