RE: [Vo]:Biological LENR

2019-07-23 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
Jones—

I assume the Chinese researchers looked for changes in B and Li isotope 
concentrations as well as Ca and K.

However, I did not notice a report of any such data?

Bob Cook

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From: JonesBeene 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 6:16:46 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Subject: [Vo]:Biological LENR

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ever example of mindless misspelling

From: Axil Axil<mailto:janap...@gmail.com>

http://www.jmcchina.org/html/2019/1/20190101.htm


  *   Replication of biologic transmutation using a chemical reaction.


Good find. The subject of biological LENR (or at least anomalous nuclear 
processes) – found in several forms of life  and derived from evolutionary 
pressure - turns up periodically, often with the name Louis Kervran.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corentin_Louis_Kervran

This particular subject is more discomforting to skeptics of LENR than is cold 
fusion itself – mainly because there is compelling  proof and wider 
implications, which is often ignored. Notably the Wiki article above omits the 
large amount of positive evidence from US government funded research which is 
supportive of biological transmutation especially transmutation of potassium 
into calcium – where the underlying evolutionary pressure  is procreation (egg 
shells).

I am happy to see this Chinese approach -  which shows a parallel chemical 
pathway – which offers completely  independent support to the evolutionary 
pathway which is found in avians.

The next step could be in the insect world – especially the  butterfly which 
can navigate over vast oceans for months - including hundreds of miles traveled 
at nighttime without solar capture or weight loss. This capability  could  
involve photoluminescence in some unknown way and probably SP (surface 
plasmons) which may be the route to hydrogen densification with energy derived 
from redundant ground states.

Re: [Vo]:Biological LENR

2019-07-22 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach 

Famous old Göthe would like you!

If no more ideas remain suddenly one comes out of the vacuum...

You should write a sit-com Axil!

Am 22.07.19 um 21:33 schrieb Axil Axil:


In LENR, energy production comes with some rare exceptions from the 
extraction of vacuum energy.



should read


In LENR, energy production comes with some rare exceptions from the 
extraction of vacuum energy. But this energy is not realized until the 
LENR reaction is terminated. So organisms can turn energy production 
off if it keeps the LENR reaction active. Energy from the LENR 
reaction is not realized when the reaction is active.






On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 3:21 PM Axil Axil > wrote:


The thing that makes biological transmutation work for organisms
is the fact that LENR does not produce any energy or particle
radiation to harm the organism. This fact is totally in opposition
to the entire LENR meme and is not an acceptable idea due to the
decades old traditions handed down to us through word of mouth
tradition by the old guard. This tradition fly in the face of
experimental results and the benign, gentle, and inherently safe
nature of the LENR reaction.

LENR has two separate channels of activity, energy production and
transmutation. Energy production in LENR has nothing to do with
transmutation. This concept is incomprehensible to LENR
followers.  LENR shields the transmutation process from
influencing the world of our reality. The only thing that LENR
produces is a stabilized product of the transmutation process.

In LENR, energy production comes with some rare exceptions from
the extraction of vacuum energy.


On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 10:16 AM JonesBeene mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>> wrote:

Changed subject heading --- Prior heading managed to set the
record for worst ever example of mindless misspelling

*From: *Axil Axil 

http://www.jmcchina.org/html/2019/1/20190101.htm

  * Replication of biologic transmutation using a chemical
reaction.

Good find. The subject of biological LENR (or at least
anomalous nuclear processes) – found in several forms of life
 and derived from evolutionary pressure - turns up
periodically, often with the name Louis Kervran.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corentin_Louis_Kervran

This particular subject is more discomforting to skeptics of
LENR than is cold fusion itself – mainly because there is
compelling  proof and wider implications, which is often
ignored. Notably the Wiki article above omits the large amount
of positive evidence from US government funded research which
is supportive of biological transmutation especially
transmutation of potassium into calcium – where the underlying
evolutionary pressure  is procreation (egg shells).

I am happy to see this Chinese approach -  which shows a
parallel chemical pathway – which offers completely
 independent support to the evolutionary pathway which is
found in avians.

The next step could be in the insect world – especially the
 butterfly which can navigate over vast oceans for months -
including hundreds of miles traveled at nighttime without
solar capture or weight loss. This capability  could  involve
photoluminescence in some unknown way and probably SP (surface
plasmons) which may be the route to hydrogen densification
with energy derived from redundant ground states.



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Re: [Vo]:Biological LENR

2019-07-22 Thread Axil Axil 
In LENR, energy production comes with some rare exceptions from the
extraction of vacuum energy.


should read


In LENR, energy production comes with some rare exceptions from the
extraction of vacuum energy. But this energy is not realized until the LENR
reaction is terminated. So organisms can turn energy production off if it
keeps the LENR reaction active. Energy from the LENR reaction is not
realized when the reaction is active.




On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 3:21 PM Axil Axil  wrote:

> The thing that makes biological transmutation work for organisms is the
> fact that LENR does not produce any energy or particle radiation to harm
> the organism. This fact is totally in opposition to the entire LENR meme
> and is not an acceptable idea due to the decades old traditions handed down
> to us through word of mouth tradition by the old guard. This tradition fly
> in the face of experimental results and the benign, gentle, and inherently
> safe nature of the LENR reaction.
>
>
>
> LENR has two separate channels of activity, energy production and
> transmutation. Energy production in LENR has nothing to do with
> transmutation. This concept is incomprehensible to LENR followers.  LENR
> shields the transmutation process from influencing the world of our
> reality. The only thing that LENR produces is a stabilized product of the
> transmutation process.
>
>
>
> In LENR, energy production comes with some rare exceptions from the
> extraction of vacuum energy.
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 10:16 AM JonesBeene  wrote:
>
>> Changed subject heading --- Prior heading managed to set the record for
>> worst ever example of mindless misspelling
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Axil Axil 
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.jmcchina.org/html/2019/1/20190101.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>- Replication of biologic transmutation using a chemical reaction.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Good find. The subject of biological LENR (or at least anomalous nuclear
>> processes) – found in several forms of life  and derived from evolutionary
>> pressure - turns up periodically, often with the name Louis Kervran.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corentin_Louis_Kervran
>>
>>
>>
>> This particular subject is more discomforting to skeptics of LENR than is
>> cold fusion itself – mainly because there is compelling  proof and wider
>> implications, which is often ignored. Notably the Wiki article above omits
>> the large amount of positive evidence from US government funded research
>> which is supportive of biological transmutation especially transmutation of
>> potassium into calcium – where the underlying evolutionary pressure  is
>> procreation (egg shells).
>>
>>
>>
>> I am happy to see this Chinese approach -  which shows a parallel
>> chemical pathway – which offers completely  independent support to the
>> evolutionary pathway which is found in avians.
>>
>>
>>
>> The next step could be in the insect world – especially the  butterfly
>> which can navigate over vast oceans for months - including hundreds of
>> miles traveled at nighttime without solar capture or weight loss. This
>> capability  could  involve photoluminescence in some unknown way and
>> probably SP (surface plasmons) which may be the route to hydrogen
>> densification with energy derived from redundant ground states.
>>
>

Re: [Vo]:Biological LENR

2019-07-22 Thread Axil Axil 
The thing that makes biological transmutation work for organisms is the
fact that LENR does not produce any energy or particle radiation to harm
the organism. This fact is totally in opposition to the entire LENR meme
and is not an acceptable idea due to the decades old traditions handed down
to us through word of mouth tradition by the old guard. This tradition fly
in the face of experimental results and the benign, gentle, and inherently
safe nature of the LENR reaction.



LENR has two separate channels of activity, energy production and
transmutation. Energy production in LENR has nothing to do with
transmutation. This concept is incomprehensible to LENR followers.  LENR
shields the transmutation process from influencing the world of our
reality. The only thing that LENR produces is a stabilized product of the
transmutation process.



In LENR, energy production comes with some rare exceptions from the
extraction of vacuum energy.

On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 10:16 AM JonesBeene  wrote:

> Changed subject heading --- Prior heading managed to set the record for
> worst ever example of mindless misspelling
>
>
>
> *From: *Axil Axil 
>
>
>
> http://www.jmcchina.org/html/2019/1/20190101.htm
>
>
>
>- Replication of biologic transmutation using a chemical reaction.
>
>
>
>
>
> Good find. The subject of biological LENR (or at least anomalous nuclear
> processes) – found in several forms of life  and derived from evolutionary
> pressure - turns up periodically, often with the name Louis Kervran.
>
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corentin_Louis_Kervran
>
>
>
> This particular subject is more discomforting to skeptics of LENR than is
> cold fusion itself – mainly because there is compelling  proof and wider
> implications, which is often ignored. Notably the Wiki article above omits
> the large amount of positive evidence from US government funded research
> which is supportive of biological transmutation especially transmutation of
> potassium into calcium – where the underlying evolutionary pressure  is
> procreation (egg shells).
>
>
>
> I am happy to see this Chinese approach -  which shows a parallel chemical
> pathway – which offers completely  independent support to the evolutionary
> pathway which is found in avians.
>
>
>
> The next step could be in the insect world – especially the  butterfly
> which can navigate over vast oceans for months - including hundreds of
> miles traveled at nighttime without solar capture or weight loss. This
> capability  could  involve photoluminescence in some unknown way and
> probably SP (surface plasmons) which may be the route to hydrogen
> densification with energy derived from redundant ground states.
>

[Vo]:Biological LENR

2019-07-22 Thread JonesBeene 
Changed subject heading --- Prior heading managed to set the record for worst 
ever example of mindless misspelling  

From: Axil Axil

http://www.jmcchina.org/html/2019/1/20190101.htm 

➢ Replication of biologic transmutation using a chemical reaction.  


Good find. The subject of biological LENR (or at least anomalous nuclear 
processes) – found in several forms of life  and derived from evolutionary 
pressure - turns up periodically, often with the name Louis Kervran.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corentin_Louis_Kervran

This particular subject is more discomforting to skeptics of LENR than is cold 
fusion itself – mainly because there is compelling  proof and wider 
implications, which is often ignored. Notably the Wiki article above omits the 
large amount of positive evidence from US government funded research which is 
supportive of biological transmutation especially transmutation of potassium 
into calcium – where the underlying evolutionary pressure  is procreation (egg 
shells).

I am happy to see this Chinese approach -  which shows a parallel chemical 
pathway – which offers completely  independent support to the evolutionary 
pathway which is found in avians.

The next step could be in the insect world – especially the  butterfly which 
can navigate over vast oceans for months - including hundreds of miles traveled 
at nighttime without solar capture or weight loss. This capability  could  
involve photoluminescence in some unknown way and probably SP (surface 
plasmons) which may be the route to hydrogen densification with energy derived 
from redundant ground states.