Re: [Vo]:Capacitors for Steorn

2010-01-15 Thread William Beaty

On Fri, 15 Jan 2010, Michel Jullian wrote:


However, if their claim is that they produce more heat than they
consume electrical power as Harry said (some form of heat pump
maybe?), then the capacitor voltage could drop even if their claim was
valid couldn't it?


Then it's a scam, since that would be a laboratory curosity, not a new 
technology which other companies could license.  It would be yet another 
FE claim where the claimant, rather than spending time to "close the loop" 
and build a self-acting demo unit, instead stirred up lots of publicity 
over some measurements.  Imagine if P&F had kept the palladium cell a 
secret, and tried to license it's use.  WHAT use?



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Re: [Vo]:Capacitors for Steorn

2010-01-15 Thread Michel Jullian
Yes, good point William, that's the way to make a capacitor both large and fast.

However, if their claim is that they produce more heat than they
consume electrical power as Harry said (some form of heat pump
maybe?), then the capacitor voltage could drop even if their claim was
valid couldn't it?

Michel

2010/1/15 William Beaty :
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010, Terry Blanton wrote:
>
>> I seriously doubt it since the statement is false. IIRC, he said that
>> the capacitor was too slow in current delivery.  Actually, the
>
> Well, that's true of supercapacitors.  They take seconds to discharge during
> a direct short, not microseconds.
>
> So if a large electrolytic has too small a value, parallel it with a
> supercap.  That gives the sharp edge as well as the large value.
>
>
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[Vo]:Capacitors for Steorn

2010-01-15 Thread William Beaty

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010, Terry Blanton wrote:


I seriously doubt it since the statement is false. IIRC, he said that
the capacitor was too slow in current delivery.  Actually, the


Well, that's true of supercapacitors.  They take seconds to discharge 
during a direct short, not microseconds.


So if a large electrolytic has too small a value, parallel it with a 
supercap.  That gives the sharp edge as well as the large value.




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