Re: [Vo]:Dealing with the noise box

2011-11-27 Thread James Bowery
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Jouni Valkonen wrote:

> With GMail, it is better to reduce noise by searching unvanted people and
> keywords and mark them automatically as read.
>

I tried that, but Gmail organizes things in "conversations" that includes
read messages in the stream so you still end up with a bunch of noise in a
"conversation".  I had to delete.


Re: [Vo]:Dealing with the noise box

2011-11-27 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Actually 'includes the words' searches also the 'subject' and 'from'
fields in GMail (this is google's product after all). Therefore there
is only one filter (the latter) required if email addresses are
included in key words.

   –Jouni

On 28 November 2011 01:18, Jouni Valkonen  wrote:
> With GMail, it is better to reduce noise by searching unvanted people and
> keywords and mark them automatically as read. Then it is simple to to keep
> inbox clean, but still the filtering is not final solution, but they can be
> always unfiltered, if needed.
>
> Brief instruction to filter noise:
>
> 1) From: jounivalkonen OR jabowery OR etc. (all the uninteresting people,
> separate email addresses with 'OR' to create filter for several people)
> 2) To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> 3) select 'Create filter with this search'
> 4) tick 'mark as read'
> 5) tick 'Also apply filter to 500 matching conversations.'
> 6) select 'Create filter'
> This filters emails that come directly from unwanted people. Then create
> second filter to search message body from unwanted key words.
> 1) To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> 2) includes the words: jounivalkonen OR jabowery OR bowery OR Jouni OR
> Valkonen OR etc. (all the uninteresting words associated to unwanted
> messages, separate words with 'OR' to apply it several people
> simultaneously. Of course, be careful with common names, such as James)
> 3) select 'Create filter with this search'
> 4) tick 'mark as read'
> 5) tick 'Also apply filter to 900 matching conversations.'
> 6) select 'Create filter'
> This way it is good to filter unwanted noise, but it is not too harsh,
> because noise is not diverted into trash bin or bypassed inbox. Although
> messages are not usually read using this filter, at least they are noted. So
> it makes possible to return them occasionally if necessary.
>
>     –Jouni
>



[Vo]:Dealing with the noise box

2011-11-27 Thread Jouni Valkonen
With GMail, it is better to reduce noise by searching unvanted people and
keywords and mark them automatically as read. Then it is simple to to keep
inbox clean, but still the filtering is not final solution, but they can be
always unfiltered, if needed.

Brief instruction to filter noise:

1) From: jounivalkonen OR jabowery OR etc. (all the uninteresting people,
separate email addresses with 'OR' to create filter for several people)
2) To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
3) select 'Create filter with this search'
4) tick 'mark as read'
5) tick 'Also apply filter to 500 matching conversations.'
6) select 'Create filter'

This filters emails that come directly from unwanted people. Then create
second filter to search message body from unwanted key words.

1) To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
2) includes the words: jounivalkonen OR jabowery OR bowery OR Jouni OR
Valkonen OR etc. (all the uninteresting words associated to unwanted
messages, separate words with 'OR' to apply it several people
simultaneously. Of course, be careful with common names, such as James)
3) select 'Create filter with this search'
4) tick 'mark as read'
5) tick 'Also apply filter to 900 matching conversations.'
6) select 'Create filter'

This way it is good to filter unwanted noise, but it is not too harsh,
because noise is not diverted into trash bin or bypassed inbox. Although
messages are not usually read using this filter, at least they are noted.
So it makes possible to return them occasionally if necessary.


–Jouni


On Nov 27, 2011 8:33 PM, "James Bowery"  wrote:
>
> Oh, I almost forgot:  For gmail, the action to take upon filter match is
"delete".  Others won't get rid of the noise.
>
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 12:32 PM, James Bowery  wrote:
>>
>> Although the "kill file" approach doesn't work due to responses, one can
use email filters such as gmail's to filter not only on the "from" field
but on words that occur in the body of the message.
>> The increase in signal to noise ratio is a pleasure.


Re: [Vo]:Dealing with the noise box

2011-11-27 Thread James Bowery
Oh, I almost forgot:  For gmail, the action to take upon filter match is
"delete".  Others won't get rid of the noise.

On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 12:32 PM, James Bowery  wrote:

> Although the "kill file" approach doesn't work due to responses, one can
> use email filters such as gmail's to filter not only on the "from" field
> but on words that occur in the body of the message.
>
> The increase in signal to noise ratio is a pleasure.
>


[Vo]:Dealing with the noise box

2011-11-27 Thread James Bowery
Although the "kill file" approach doesn't work due to responses, one can
use email filters such as gmail's to filter not only on the "from" field
but on words that occur in the body of the message.

The increase in signal to noise ratio is a pleasure.