RE: [Vo]:Defkalion answers a lot of technical questions
[snip] This is a well known and well documented phenomenon related with the H2- H1- H2 circle [/snip] sounds like zero point energy in the Moller - Lyne tradition. Fran From: Alan J Fletcher [mailto:a...@well.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:43 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Defkalion answers a lot of technical questions http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5983#p5983 Dave wrote: @Defkalion I am interested in the trigger mechanism for the Hyperion reaction. My definition of trigger is a relatively low energy drive process that causes a large response. This is similar to the trigger for a rifle. Correct, this is what triggering generaly means. But in Hyperion's triggering is defined as a two phase process (please note Spec Sheet p.5) that is able to ignite the reactions and control them within pre-defined temperature ranges. Dave wrote: 1). Does the heat generating Ni-H reaction only occur during the exact time period that the trigger is applied? Does it die down immediately (within seconds) once the trigger is removed? Ni-H LENR reactions occure following atomic Hydrogen generation (page 5 in spec sheet) and after a specific period the triggering procedures are applied (we will not answer at this stage to your question how long is this period). Once the trigger activates the reaction, the control can stop it and trigger it again at will (in Hyperion products performed by software controled will, following specific aglorithms). There is a predictable very limitted heat after death phenomenon following every long- period stop of a reactor/reaction. This is a well known and well documented phenomenon related with the H2- H1- H2 circle (chemical, non LENR energy), which is monitored by sensors and the Hyperion safety/control electronics/software. The contribution of such endothermic-exothermic circle to the COP of the total process is almost zero. Dave wrote: 2). Somewhere I saw that the trigger was a 24 volt, 6 amp = 144 watt drive signal. Is this what you would refer to as the trigger? Yes, this drive signal powers certain mechanisms of the Hyperion ignition system. Dave wrote: 3). Does the magnetic field associated with the 6 amp current affect the generated heat output in a major way? We will not answer to this questions at this stage. Dave wrote: 4). Is the same 24 Volt, 6 Amp current used with the multi core product as well as in the single core design? We will not answer to this questions at this stage. Dave wrote: 5). It has been suggested that your output energy occurs in bursts that are controlled by the above trigger and is not a continuous function of the kernel temperatures. Is this a true statement? If not, explain the process if you would be so kind. This is a true statement. LENR energy within Hyperion reactors is produced in bursts that are controlled by the above triggering procedures (and the safety electronics controling the triggering procedures/mechanisms, monitoring also the reactor's inner conditions). The frequency of such bursts is also contollable (within certain limits), defining the actual COP of the Hyperion reactors and the Hyperion systems. Every such burst (or spike as it is also called) is the result of what we have called a multistage set of reactions. We will not explain at this stage the whole triggering process or the dynamic system of the multi-stage set of reactions triggered, as our patents are under preparation, a lot of people are trying unsafly to replicate LENR reactions based mostly on simple speculations or their understanding in forum posts (like the present) rather than following any safety policies or methodologies in scientific research and development, etc... Dave wrote: 6). Finally, is your design subject to thermal run away if the kernel gets too hot? Till now we have reached in lab conditions thermal run aways only when we deliberetly killed critical control mechanisms of Hyperion, having deactivated all of its backup safety mechanisms. The result of such thermal run aways was the melting of Ni within the reactor causing a reaction stop with no catastrophic effects to the environment (off course causing major malfunctions within the Hyperion kernel). In real situations and before reaching any such thermal run away condition, signals/alarms of mallfunctioned critical control mechanisms of Hyperion systems trigger automaticaly a number of backup safety mechanisms. One is the venting the Hydrogen to the Argon atmoshere (please note our answer also related with safety of the Hydrogen Circuit in viewtopic.php?f=19t=773http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=773) causing a stop of the reactions. If Hyperion's control/safety electronics and/or the backup safety mechanisms are also killed, then the self distructing mechanism of Hyperion automaticlly will destroy the inner of all reactors stoping any active reaction at once
[Vo]:Defkalion answers a lot of technical questions
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5983#p5983 Dave wrote: @Defkalion I am interested in the trigger mechanism for the Hyperion reaction. My definition of trigger is a relatively low energy drive process that causes a large response. This is similar to the trigger for a rifle. Correct, this is what triggering generaly means. But in Hyperion's triggering is defined as a two phase process (please note Spec Sheet p.5) that is able to ignite the reactions and control them within pre-defined temperature ranges. Dave wrote: 1). Does the heat generating Ni-H reaction only occur during the exact time period that the trigger is applied? Does it die down immediately (within seconds) once the trigger is removed? Ni-H LENR reactions occure following atomic Hydrogen generation (page 5 in spec sheet) and after a specific period the triggering procedures are applied (we will not answer at this stage to your question how long is this period). Once the trigger activates the reaction, the control can stop it and trigger it again at will (in Hyperion products performed by software controled will, following specific aglorithms). There is a predictable very limitted heat after death phenomenon following every long- period stop of a reactor/reaction. This is a well known and well documented phenomenon related with the H2- H1- H2 circle (chemical, non LENR energy), which is monitored by sensors and the Hyperion safety/control electronics/software. The contribution of such endothermic-exothermic circle to the COP of the total process is almost zero. Dave wrote: 2). Somewhere I saw that the trigger was a 24 volt, 6 amp = 144 watt drive signal. Is this what you would refer to as the trigger? Yes, this drive signal powers certain mechanisms of the Hyperion ignition system. Dave wrote: 3). Does the magnetic field associated with the 6 amp current affect the generated heat output in a major way? We will not answer to this questions at this stage. Dave wrote: 4). Is the same 24 Volt, 6 Amp current used with the multi core product as well as in the single core design? We will not answer to this questions at this stage. Dave wrote: 5). It has been suggested that your output energy occurs in bursts that are controlled by the above trigger and is not a continuous function of the kernel temperatures. Is this a true statement? If not, explain the process if you would be so kind. This is a true statement. LENR energy within Hyperion reactors is produced in bursts that are controlled by the above triggering procedures (and the safety electronics controling the triggering procedures/mechanisms, monitoring also the reactor's inner conditions). The frequency of such bursts is also contollable (within certain limits), defining the actual COP of the Hyperion reactors and the Hyperion systems. Every such burst (or spike as it is also called) is the result of what we have called a multistage set of reactions. We will not explain at this stage the whole triggering process or the dynamic system of the multi-stage set of reactions triggered, as our patents are under preparation, a lot of people are trying unsafly to replicate LENR reactions based mostly on simple speculations or their understanding in forum posts (like the present) rather than following any safety policies or methodologies in scientific research and development, etc... Dave wrote: 6). Finally, is your design subject to thermal run away if the kernel gets too hot? Till now we have reached in lab conditions thermal run aways only when we deliberetly killed critical control mechanisms of Hyperion, having deactivated all of its backup safety mechanisms. The result of such thermal run aways was the melting of Ni within the reactor causing a reaction stop with no catastrophic effects to the environment (off course causing major malfunctions within the Hyperion kernel). In real situations and before reaching any such thermal run away condition, signals/alarms of mallfunctioned critical control mechanisms of Hyperion systems trigger automaticaly a number of backup safety mechanisms. One is the venting the Hydrogen to the Argon atmoshere (please note our answer also related with safety of the Hydrogen Circuit in viewtopic.php?f=19t=773) causing a stop of the reactions. If Hyperion's control/safety electronics and/or the backup safety mechanisms are also killed, then the self distructing mechanism of Hyperion automaticlly will destroy the inner of all reactors stoping any active reaction at once, with no catastrophic effects to the Hyperion's environment. So, there is no practical way or expected in situ situation to reach such a thermal run away in a Hyperion system. Thank you (lenr.qumbu.com -- analyzing the Rossi/Focardi eCat -- and the defkalion hyperion -- Hi, google!)
