Re: [Vo]:Hokkaido Shimbun reports on Mizuno hydrocarbon experiments
It's been said before prematurely but doesn't it seem that - finally! - the walls of doubt are beginning to crumble?
Re: [Vo]:Hokkaido Shimbun reports on Mizuno hydrocarbon experiments
I wonder if there was anything special about the carbon? This list has speculated that fusion could occur within C60 or nanotubes. Terry On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following article appeared in the Hokkaido Newspaper on June 12. It describes an experiment that Mizuno has been doing for quite a while. He has been uncharacteristically unwilling to divulge information about this work, but I believe he intends to discuss it in detail at ICCF14 in August 2008. I have been aware of this research for some time, and I have several manuscripts about it, which Mizuno asked me not to discuss. I hope that I can upload more information soon, perhaps before ICCF14. The experimental technique, calibration and other aspects of the work are much improved since I first learned of it, and the cell is smaller and safer. The article says Mizuno has repeated the experiment 30 times. This means 30 times with this particular configuration, starting this year. He has done the experiment many times previously with a larger cell. The older cell was too large and therefore dangerous, so I am relieved to hear he has scaled down the cell. Note that the article refers to Mr. Mizuno and indicates he is a graduate student. He is Dr. Mizuno, associate professor. - Jed - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hokkaido Shimbun http://www.hokkaido-np.co.jp/news/environment/98372.html Environment * Nature * Science section Cold fusion with a simple reactor? Hokkaido U. Researcher Mizuno Confirms Reaction Will report at international conference June 12, 2008 On June 11, Mr. Tadahiko Mizuno of the Hokkaido University Engineering Dept. (Energy and Environmental Systems) announced a new experiment in which carbon compounds are exposed to hydrogen in a relatively simple reactor (furnace) and then heated. The compounds then produce anomalous heat (excess heat) in amounts far exceeding the heat that could be generated by chemical reactions, as well as gamma rays, which indicate that a nuclear reaction is occuring. Mizuno will present these results at an upcoming international conference in August in the U.S., as a confirmation of a new form of cold fusion. The experiment is done with a stainless steel vessel (internal volume 88 cc). 0.1 gram of phenanthrene (a type of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon) is placed in the vessel, and high pressure hydrogen gas is added. Also exposed to the gas inside the vessel serving as catalysts are sulfur and platinum, which acts as a means to line up hydrogen atoms in gas, and promote hydrogen reactions. When hydrogen pressure is raised to 70 atm, and the temperature is raised to 660°C [with a resistance heater], the temperature rises above the set level, and after the input power to the resistance heat is cut off, the cell temperature continues to rise for about an hour, reaching a peak of 690°C. By this stage, excess heat output reaches 60 watts, and total excess heat energy is 240 kilojoules, which exceeds any conceivable chemical reaction by a factor of over 100. Mr. Mizuno has repeated this experiment 30 times, and observed excess heat in every case. Furthermore, after the test, products found inside the cell include: 1. large amounts of carbon-13, an isotope that occurs naturally on earth as only 1% of normal carbon; 2. nitrogen, which is not found in the cell before the experiment in measurable amounts. Because neither of these can be explained as the product of a chemical reaction, Mr. Mizuno says, One must conclude that a fusion reaction involving hydrogen and carbon is occurring in the cell. Prof. Hiroshi Yamada of the Iwate University Engineering Dept. (Electrical Engineering) said It is quite likely that heat is being generated at levels far exceeding heat from chemical reactions. This research deserves attention. Also, a leading researcher at a major industrial company said, This is quite different from previous reports of cold fusion, and of great interest.
Re: [Vo]:Hokkaido Shimbun reports on Mizuno hydrocarbon experiments
--- Terry Blanton wrote: I wonder if there was anything special about the carbon? This list has speculated that fusion could occur within C60 Terry, you are becoming quite perceptive in your old age ;-) For one thing specifically- it would be interesting to know if Mizuno used C-60 in the context of Arata -- i.e. Arata's implied finding that very high loading is effective for unpowered fusion (i.e. really cold CF). He mentions a loading of 4:1 is benficial for Pd. Consequently, getting four atoms of D together in a single vacancy of a better matrix geometry, at the same time, could be one key which not only verifies but improves Arata's palladium dust. Why would that 4-atom loading favor C-60? Possibly because of that inner spatial geometry and the inertness. In fact it appears that other forms of carbon, including graphite, have worked unpredictably in the past(Les Case for instance). Is that because they are simply too reactive with hydrogen to routinely accept this kind of non-covalent hydriding? C-60 in contrast is almost as inert as diamond. IOW 2 molecules of deuterium or four atoms individually might fit within the almost spherical confines of the inert buckyball without covalent linking to the matrix (i.e. the carbon). Jones
Re: [Vo]:Hokkaido Shimbun reports on Mizuno hydrocarbon experiments
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry, you are becoming quite perceptive in your old age ;-) Just more desperate and speculative as oil and age rise. ;-) Terry
Re: [Vo]:Hokkaido Shimbun reports on Mizuno hydrocarbon experiments
--- Ed Excellent point. ... when interpreting the work of Arata, you need to separate what he claims from what is known about palladium The extra hydrogen is absorbed to the surface and is present as spill-over hydrogen attached to the ZrO2. The issue is, Does palladium or the ZrO2 contain the NAE? Hopefully, for ultimate commercialization, it is the zircon, due to much lower cost. I have a feeling that you are probably looking into this already. Jones
Re: [Vo]:Hokkaido Shimbun reports on Mizuno hydrocarbon experiments
Jones Beene wrote: --- Ed Excellent point. ... when interpreting the work of Arata, you need to separate what he claims from what is known about palladium The extra hydrogen is absorbed to the surface and is present as spill-over hydrogen attached to the ZrO2. The issue is, Does palladium or the ZrO2 contain the NAE? Hopefully, for ultimate commercialization, it is the zircon, due to much lower cost. I have a feeling that you are probably looking into this already. Yes, you bet. However, the Pd is required to make the spill-over D available. In fact, this might be the only role Pd has, a role other metals can fill as well. Ed Jones
[Vo]:Hokkaido Shimbun reports on Mizuno hydrocarbon experiments
The following article appeared in the Hokkaido Newspaper on June 12. It describes an experiment that Mizuno has been doing for quite a while. He has been uncharacteristically unwilling to divulge information about this work, but I believe he intends to discuss it in detail at ICCF14 in August 2008. I have been aware of this research for some time, and I have several manuscripts about it, which Mizuno asked me not to discuss. I hope that I can upload more information soon, perhaps before ICCF14. The experimental technique, calibration and other aspects of the work are much improved since I first learned of it, and the cell is smaller and safer. The article says Mizuno has repeated the experiment 30 times. This means 30 times with this particular configuration, starting this year. He has done the experiment many times previously with a larger cell. The older cell was too large and therefore dangerous, so I am relieved to hear he has scaled down the cell. Note that the article refers to Mr. Mizuno and indicates he is a graduate student. He is Dr. Mizuno, associate professor. - Jed - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hokkaido Shimbun http://www.hokkaido-np.co.jp/news/environment/98372.html Environment * Nature * Science section Cold fusion with a simple reactor? Hokkaido U. Researcher Mizuno Confirms Reaction Will report at international conference June 12, 2008 On June 11, Mr. Tadahiko Mizuno of the Hokkaido University Engineering Dept. (Energy and Environmental Systems) announced a new experiment in which carbon compounds are exposed to hydrogen in a relatively simple reactor (furnace) and then heated. The compounds then produce anomalous heat (excess heat) in amounts far exceeding the heat that could be generated by chemical reactions, as well as gamma rays, which indicate that a nuclear reaction is occuring. Mizuno will present these results at an upcoming international conference in August in the U.S., as a confirmation of a new form of cold fusion. The experiment is done with a stainless steel vessel (internal volume 88 cc). 0.1 gram of phenanthrene (a type of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon) is placed in the vessel, and high pressure hydrogen gas is added. Also exposed to the gas inside the vessel serving as catalysts are sulfur and platinum, which acts as a means to line up hydrogen atoms in gas, and promote hydrogen reactions. When hydrogen pressure is raised to 70 atm, and the temperature is raised to 660°C [with a resistance heater], the temperature rises above the set level, and after the input power to the resistance heat is cut off, the cell temperature continues to rise for about an hour, reaching a peak of 690°C. By this stage, excess heat output reaches 60 watts, and total excess heat energy is 240 kilojoules, which exceeds any conceivable chemical reaction by a factor of over 100. Mr. Mizuno has repeated this experiment 30 times, and observed excess heat in every case. Furthermore, after the test, products found inside the cell include: 1. large amounts of carbon-13, an isotope that occurs naturally on earth as only 1% of normal carbon; 2. nitrogen, which is not found in the cell before the experiment in measurable amounts. Because neither of these can be explained as the product of a chemical reaction, Mr. Mizuno says, One must conclude that a fusion reaction involving hydrogen and carbon is occurring in the cell. Prof. Hiroshi Yamada of the Iwate University Engineering Dept. (Electrical Engineering) said It is quite likely that heat is being generated at levels far exceeding heat from chemical reactions. This research deserves attention. Also, a leading researcher at a major industrial company said, This is quite different from previous reports of cold fusion, and of great interest.
Re: [Vo]:Hokkaido Shimbun reports on Mizuno hydrocarbon experiments
Jed, Is there an English link for this on the site or did you translate it? Steve At 12:57 PM 6/15/2008, you wrote: The following article appeared in the Hokkaido Newspaper on June 12. It describes an experiment that Mizuno has been doing for quite a while. He has been uncharacteristically unwilling to divulge information about this work, but I believe he intends to discuss it in detail at ICCF14 in August 2008. I have been aware of this research for some time, and I have several manuscripts about it, which Mizuno asked me not to discuss. I hope that I can upload more information soon, perhaps before ICCF14. The experimental technique, calibration and other aspects of the work are much improved since I first learned of it, and the cell is smaller and safer. The article says Mizuno has repeated the experiment 30 times. This means 30 times with this particular configuration, starting this year. He has done the experiment many times previously with a larger cell. The older cell was too large and therefore dangerous, so I am relieved to hear he has scaled down the cell. Note that the article refers to Mr. Mizuno and indicates he is a graduate student. He is Dr. Mizuno, associate professor. - Jed - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hokkaido Shimbun http://www.hokkaido-np.co.jp/news/environment/98372.html Environment * Nature * Science section Cold fusion with a simple reactor? Hokkaido U. Researcher Mizuno Confirms Reaction Will report at international conference June 12, 2008 On June 11, Mr. Tadahiko Mizuno of the Hokkaido University Engineering Dept. (Energy and Environmental Systems) announced a new experiment in which carbon compounds are exposed to hydrogen in a relatively simple reactor (furnace) and then heated. The compounds then produce anomalous heat (excess heat) in amounts far exceeding the heat that could be generated by chemical reactions, as well as gamma rays, which indicate that a nuclear reaction is occuring. Mizuno will present these results at an upcoming international conference in August in the U.S., as a confirmation of a new form of cold fusion. The experiment is done with a stainless steel vessel (internal volume 88 cc). 0.1 gram of phenanthrene (a type of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon) is placed in the vessel, and high pressure hydrogen gas is added. Also exposed to the gas inside the vessel serving as catalysts are sulfur and platinum, which acts as a means to line up hydrogen atoms in gas, and promote hydrogen reactions. When hydrogen pressure is raised to 70 atm, and the temperature is raised to 660°C [with a resistance heater], the temperature rises above the set level, and after the input power to the resistance heat is cut off, the cell temperature continues to rise for about an hour, reaching a peak of 690°C. By this stage, excess heat output reaches 60 watts, and total excess heat energy is 240 kilojoules, which exceeds any conceivable chemical reaction by a factor of over 100. Mr. Mizuno has repeated this experiment 30 times, and observed excess heat in every case. Furthermore, after the test, products found inside the cell include: 1. large amounts of carbon-13, an isotope that occurs naturally on earth as only 1% of normal carbon; 2. nitrogen, which is not found in the cell before the experiment in measurable amounts. Because neither of these can be explained as the product of a chemical reaction, Mr. Mizuno says, One must conclude that a fusion reaction involving hydrogen and carbon is occurring in the cell. Prof. Hiroshi Yamada of the Iwate University Engineering Dept. (Electrical Engineering) said It is quite likely that heat is being generated at levels far exceeding heat from chemical reactions. This research deserves attention. Also, a leading researcher at a major industrial company said, This is quite different from previous reports of cold fusion, and of great interest.
