Re: The size of our vehicles (was: Re: [Vo]:If You Liked Segway)
I wouldn't opt for a physically larger car just because it was cheap to run it. I would opt for a heavier small car, though, for safety reasons. Jeff On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Andre Blum andre_vor...@blums.nl wrote: On 08/24/2012 12:54 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:28 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: I guess even though it might me simpler just having three wheels, a tricycle will not attract babes like at the end of the video... There's a big difference between riding a three vs a two wheeler. It's in the dynamics. T now that I see this two-weeler, and its four wheeler stability, it sets me to thinking: *why*? Terry's answer may be true. It may be for the nice dynamics of a two wheeler (though most have become artificial in this specific example). The other case behind this vehicle must be: the trend in cars is towards smaller. So I was wondering, and have been a while, what the future trend will be in car sizes. I honestly don't know the answer myself. As said, nowadays, the trend is towards much smaller cars. A large part of this has to do with pollution and economy. It is almost certain that In the decade(s) to come we will have autonomous, self-driving cars, like Google is testing now. There is also not unthinkable that variable costs will become ultra low, for example when LENR becomes practical for use in cars. Initially, the self-driving will be human assisted, meaning you will actively participate in traffic. Soon, however, we will all want to turn our chairs and sit at a desk and do some work, or have some entertainment, as the car brings us where we want to be. For this you will need some amount of space. Parking space for these larger cars may not be much of an issue, when you can instruct the car to park itself outside of town, if only to save some money, and ask it to be back in time to pick you up later. In traffic itself, it may not take long before we introduce some kind of scheduling or reservation algorithm (much like you can have QoS - Quality of Service - on a computer network). We can then 'reserve' a slot for our car in non congested traffic. This allows for less congestion, more optimal use of asphalt and more space on the road for bigger cars. Thinking even further, and taking into account 'free' energy like LENR, I envision that if, for example, you live somewhere in Europe and want to spend the weekend in southern France, you just make arrangements for this around bedtime, get in your much bigger car and make it go it that way, then go to sleep. This would call for a more camper / Van like configuration, with room for some pre-sleep entertainment and a bed. And maybe even one that will provide you the comfort you need for your stay there. Costs would only be some tire wear and maybe toll for the roads. Even when forgetting all this really sci-fi autonomous stuff (that I think in fact has a larger reality factor than free energy) , would it be true that if by using LENR we get rid of the guilty feeling most of us now have with big pickup trucks and SUVs etc, everyone will want to have one, again? What do you guys think... will cars become bigger again? Andre
Re: The size of our vehicles (was: Re: [Vo]:If You Liked Segway)
In, say about 10,000 yrs or so, a typical automobile will be the about the size of a Match Box (toy) Car... because a tremendous amount of progress will continue until an almost infinite amount of information can be stored in something very small. Like the first computers back in the 50's(?) to now, which can fit in the palm of your hand. And so goes for the size and/or functonality of a modern day human being and/or all the data that makes one of us us. Undoubtedly in the far distant future an entire population/civilization could fit into something the size of a Basketball, and from there things will just get smaller smaller until an all new extremely efficient standard or mode of living will be developed. So I was wondering, and have been a while, what the future trend will be in car sizes. I honestly don't know the answer myself. /HTML
Re: The size of our vehicles (was: Re: [Vo]:If You Liked Segway)
Actually I expect future cars to be levitated in some manner. This can be done now with air cushion vehicles and later could be done with new technologies. Why waste money on highway paving if the wear can be virtually eliminated and travel can be over other surfaces? I suspect that various sizes will be available for various purposes. I want one of the high performance sporty ones! Dave -Original Message- From: LORENHEYER lorenhe...@aol.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Aug 25, 2012 10:35 am Subject: Re: The size of our vehicles (was: Re: [Vo]:If You Liked Segway) In, say about 10,000 yrs or so, a typical automobile will be the about the size of a Match Box (toy) Car... because a tremendous amount of progress will continue until an almost infinite amount of information can be stored in something very small. Like the first computers back in the 50's(?) to now, which can fit in the palm of your hand. And so goes for the size and/or functonality of a modern day human being and/or all the data that makes one of us us. Undoubtedly in the far distant future an entire population/civilization could fit into something the size of a Basketball, and from there things will just get smaller smaller until an all new extremely efficient standard or mode of living will be developed. So I was wondering, and have been a while, what the future trend will be in car sizes. I honestly don't know the answer myself. /HTML
[Vo]:If You Liked Segway
You will love Lit: http://litmotors.com/ albeit, a bit more expensive. T
Re: [Vo]:If You Liked Segway
I guess even though it might me simpler just having three wheels, a tricycle will not attract babes like at the end of the video... On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: You will love Lit: http://litmotors.com/ albeit, a bit more expensive. T Stewart
RE: [Vo]:If You Liked Segway
Wired wrote them up a couple of months ago: http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/05/lit-motors-c1/ They are in Alameda, on the old air base. Same place Myth-busters films most of their overrated debunking. (for trivia nuts the photos above are approximately where the Interstate chase scene in the Matrix was filmed with SF in the background - they actually built a few miles of fake banked Highway on the old airstrip. That scene cost about $5 million per minute. Wonder if the spirits of Mr Smith are still haunting the place? -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton You will love Lit: http://litmotors.com/ albeit, a bit more expensive. T attachment: winmail.dat
Re: [Vo]:If You Liked Segway
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:28 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: I guess even though it might me simpler just having three wheels, a tricycle will not attract babes like at the end of the video... There's a big difference between riding a three vs a two wheeler. It's in the dynamics. T
The size of our vehicles (was: Re: [Vo]:If You Liked Segway)
On 08/24/2012 12:54 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:28 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: I guess even though it might me simpler just having three wheels, a tricycle will not attract babes like at the end of the video... There's a big difference between riding a three vs a two wheeler. It's in the dynamics. T now that I see this two-weeler, and its four wheeler stability, it sets me to thinking: *why*? Terry's answer may be true. It may be for the nice dynamics of a two wheeler (though most have become artificial in this specific example). The other case behind this vehicle must be: the trend in cars is towards smaller. So I was wondering, and have been a while, what the future trend will be in car sizes. I honestly don't know the answer myself. As said, nowadays, the trend is towards much smaller cars. A large part of this has to do with pollution and economy. It is almost certain that In the decade(s) to come we will have autonomous, self-driving cars, like Google is testing now. There is also not unthinkable that variable costs will become ultra low, for example when LENR becomes practical for use in cars. Initially, the self-driving will be human assisted, meaning you will actively participate in traffic. Soon, however, we will all want to turn our chairs and sit at a desk and do some work, or have some entertainment, as the car brings us where we want to be. For this you will need some amount of space. Parking space for these larger cars may not be much of an issue, when you can instruct the car to park itself outside of town, if only to save some money, and ask it to be back in time to pick you up later. In traffic itself, it may not take long before we introduce some kind of scheduling or reservation algorithm (much like you can have QoS - Quality of Service - on a computer network). We can then 'reserve' a slot for our car in non congested traffic. This allows for less congestion, more optimal use of asphalt and more space on the road for bigger cars. Thinking even further, and taking into account 'free' energy like LENR, I envision that if, for example, you live somewhere in Europe and want to spend the weekend in southern France, you just make arrangements for this around bedtime, get in your much bigger car and make it go it that way, then go to sleep. This would call for a more camper / Van like configuration, with room for some pre-sleep entertainment and a bed. And maybe even one that will provide you the comfort you need for your stay there. Costs would only be some tire wear and maybe toll for the roads. Even when forgetting all this really sci-fi autonomous stuff (that I think in fact has a larger reality factor than free energy) , would it be true that if by using LENR we get rid of the guilty feeling most of us now have with big pickup trucks and SUVs etc, everyone will want to have one, again? What do you guys think... will cars become bigger again? Andre
