[Vo]:Interesting Recent Rossi Statement

2014-01-03 Thread David Roberson
Rossi made a statement on his Journal recently that seemed puzzling at the 
time.   He mentioned that he was turning on the drive power for 1/4 of the time 
and allowing the device to drift in the self sustaining mode for the other 3/4. 
 He further told us that he was working of having the ECAT return all of the 
drive power even during the active drive time.

At the time, I did not give this statement much thought, but today I was 
reviewing the operation of my latest computer model and found his statement 
revealing.  If you assume that he is driving the core with input at a rapid 
periodic rate so that the output power variation is well filtered by the time 
constants of the system then this goal would only yield a COP of 4.  We know 
that he plans to guarantee a COP of at least 6 so I believe that we can dismiss 
a very short period PWM drive function.   The model therefore points us in the 
direction of a slower process.  Either technique can be used to achieve a 
stable(with great care) ECAT control system, but the slower pulse rate at this 
duty cycle can be induced to reach a higher COP.

The reason a lower period drive achieves higher gain is because of the shape of 
the internally generated power waveform.  Most of my original model work 
included this type of plan since it is easier to generate power input 
efficiently with rail to rail digital signals.  I assumed that Rossi was going 
for the easiest and quickest method for his design since there is less risk 
involved.

The internal core power generation mechanism exhibits an interesting behavior 
when the thermal runaway temperature threshold is approached.  There is a time 
constant associated with the thermal balances acting in conjunction with the 
net thermal mass which approaches infinity at that exact point.  Of course, 
Rossi can not afford to actually reach that level without active cooling since 
his device would melt with a tiny error in temperature.  But apparently he is 
willing to come close to that level to reach his COP goal.

As I mentioned above, the thermal time constant approaches infinity as a limit 
when the internal core temperature approaches thermal runaway.   This results 
in the core holding onto the elevated temperature and associated power 
generation level for a time that extends in duration.   This is a non linear 
process which effectively generates much more power than a linear time constant 
system.  Most of the systems that we deal with have linear time constants and 
therefore that is what we tend to expect.  The ECAT depends upon the other 
effect for its elevated COP.

This conclusion is based upon my computer models and of course might be in 
error due to the lack of data from Rossi.  I believe that the trends can be 
reasonably derived from the model behavior and the statements that Rossi leaks 
to us on rare occasions is well supported by the model.  Unless he has a 
computer model much like mine, we can be assured that the ECAT is real since I 
can not imagine how he would guess at this type of mechanism without some form 
of evidence in support of his leaks.

Dave


Re: [Vo]:Interesting Recent Rossi Statement

2014-01-03 Thread Axil Axil
I am beginning to suspect that Rossi may have figured out what his reaction
is really doing. The core principle of the nanoplasmonic reaction involves
the process of how the micro and nano particles come together into
aggregations to form the nuclear active sites. These sites are the spaces
between the aggregations of particles that form naturally in a dusty plasma.



The process of nanoparticle control including aggregation control driven by
electrostatic attraction and repulsion is a well-known and widely used
mechanism in nano-engineering.



The first control mechanism developed to control particle aggregation is
electrostatic control.



See this abstract for details:



http://duepublico.uni-duisburg-essen.de/servlets/DerivateServlet/Derivate-5148/index.html



Using electrostatic based control, it may be possible in the E-Cat to
control the nature of nanoparticle behavior by using electronic control. By
producing a negative or positive electrostatic potential in the hydrogen
envelop, both a positive and negative reaction feedback process can be
initiated using electrostatic control based on plasma temperature sensing
as an input parameter.



If this is the control mechanism that Rossi has developed, it would be a
very important advance is Ni/H technology and reaction understanding.






On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 12:05 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

 Rossi made a statement on his Journal recently that seemed puzzling at the
 time.   He mentioned that he was turning on the drive power for 1/4 of the
 time and allowing the device to drift in the self sustaining mode for the
 other 3/4.  He further told us that he was working of having the ECAT
 return *all* of the drive power even during the active drive time.

 At the time, I did not give this statement much thought, but today I was
 reviewing the operation of my latest computer model and found his statement
 revealing.  If you assume that he is driving the core with input at a rapid
 periodic rate so that the output power variation is well filtered by the
 time constants of the system then this goal would only yield a COP of 4.
 We know that he plans to guarantee a COP of at least 6 so I believe that we
 can dismiss a very short period PWM drive function.   The model therefore
 points us in the direction of a slower process.  Either technique can be
 used to achieve a stable(with great care) ECAT control system, but the
 slower pulse rate at this duty cycle can be induced to reach a higher COP.

 The reason a lower period drive achieves higher gain is because of the
 shape of the internally generated power waveform.  Most of my original
 model work included this type of plan since it is easier to generate power
 input efficiently with rail to rail digital signals.  I assumed that Rossi
 was going for the easiest and quickest method for his design since there is
 less risk involved.

 The internal core power generation mechanism exhibits an interesting
 behavior when the thermal runaway temperature threshold is approached.
 There is a time constant associated with the thermal balances acting in
 conjunction with the net thermal mass which approaches infinity at that
 exact point.  Of course, Rossi can not afford to actually reach that level
 without active cooling since his device would melt with a tiny error in
 temperature.  But apparently he is willing to come close to that level to
 reach his COP goal.

 As I mentioned above, the thermal time constant approaches infinity as a
 limit when the internal core temperature approaches thermal runaway.   This
 results in the core holding onto the elevated temperature and associated
 power generation level for a time that extends in duration.   This is a non
 linear process which effectively generates much more power than a linear
 time constant system.  Most of the systems that we deal with have linear
 time constants and therefore that is what we tend to expect.  The ECAT
 depends upon the other effect for its elevated COP.

 This conclusion is based upon my computer models and of course might be in
 error due to the lack of data from Rossi.  I believe that the trends can be
 reasonably derived from the model behavior and the statements that Rossi
 leaks to us on rare occasions is well supported by the model.  Unless he
 has a computer model much like mine, we can be assured that the ECAT is
 real since I can not imagine how he would guess at this type of mechanism
 without some form of evidence in support of his leaks.

 Dave