[Vo]:MFM air-flow calorimeter

2012-12-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
I hate air-flow calorimeters but this looks like a beautiful piece of
equipment to me:

http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/youtube-video-feed/170-the-air-flow-calorimeter

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:MFM air-flow calorimeter

2012-12-10 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
 I hate air-flow calorimeters but this looks like a beautiful piece of
 equipment to me:

 http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/youtube-video-feed/170-the-air-flow-calorimeter

With his white beard, Paul could be making a killing in the malls
right now (if he can stand the kids.)

I can tell him what I would like for Christmas!  Maybe Santa will
bring us all a successful replication.



Re: [Vo]:MFM air-flow calorimeter

2012-12-10 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry sez:


 http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/youtube-video-feed/170-the-air-flow-calorimeter

 With his white beard, Paul could be making a killing in the malls
 right now (if he can stand the kids.)

 I can tell him what I would like for Christmas!  Maybe Santa will
 bring us all a successful replication.

Speaking of wishlists my brother sent me the following exchange which
has been making the rounds. While not verified, the exchange does
appear to have been made between Santa and one of his expectant
customers:



Dear Santa,

How are you? How is Mrs. Claus? I hope everyone, from the reindeer to
the elves, is fine. I have been a very good boy this year. I would
like an X-Box 360 with Call of Duty IV and an iPhone 4 for Christmas.
I hope you remember that come Christmas Day. Merry Christmas,

Timmy Jones

* *

Dear Timmy,

Thank you for your letter. Mrs. Claus, the reindeer and the elves are
all fine and thank you for asking about them. Santa is a little
worried all the time you spend playing video games and texting. Santa
wouldn’t want you to get fat. Since you have indeed been a good boy, I
think I’ll bring you something you can go outside and play with.
*Merry Christmas,*

Santa Claus***

* *

Mr. Claus,

Seeing that I have fulfilled the “naughty vs. Nice” contract, set by
you I might add, I feel confident that you can see your way clear to
granting me what I have asked for. I certainly wouldn’t want to turn
this joyous season into one of litigation. Also, don’t you think that
a jibe at my weight coming from an overweight man who goes out once a
year is a bit trite?

Respectfully,

Tim Jones

* *

Mr. Jones,

While I have acknowledged you have met the “nice” criteria, need I
remind you that your Christmas list is a request and in no way is it a
guarantee of services provided. Should you wish to pursue legal
action, well that is your right. Please know, however, that my
attorney’s have been on retainer ever since the  Burgermeister
Meisterburger incident and will be more than happy to take you on in
open court. Additionally, the exercise I alluded to will not only
improve your health, but also improve your social skills and
potentially help clear up a complexion that looks like the bottom of
the Burger King fry bin most days.

Very Truly Yours,

S Claus

* *

Now look here Fat Man,

I told you what I want and I expect you to bring it. I was attempting
to be polite about this but you brought my looks and my friends into
this. Now you just be disrespecting me. I’m about to tweet my boys and
we’re gonna be waiting for your fat ass and I’m taking my game
console, my game, my phone, and whatever else I want. WHAT EVER I
WANT, MAN!

T-Bone

* *

Listen Pizza Face,

Seriously??? You think a dude that breaks into every house in the
world on one night and never gets caught sweats a skinny G-banger
wannabe? “He sees you when you’re sleeping; He knows when you’re
awake”. Sound familiar, genius? You know what kind of resources I have
at my disposal. I got your shit wired, Jack. I go all around the world
and see ways to hurt people that if I described them right now, you’d
throw up your Totino’s pizza roll all over the carpet of your mom’s
basement. You’re not getting what you asked for, but I’m still
stopping by your crib to stomp a mud hole in you’re ass and then walk
it dry. Chew on that, Petunia.

S Clizzy

* *

Dear Santa,

Bring me whatever you see fit. I’ll appreciate anything.

Timmy

* *

Timmy,

That’s what I thought, you little bastard.

Santa

**

-- 
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:MFM air-flow calorimeter

2012-12-10 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 1:05 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Speaking of wishlists

That just went out to my personal mailing list.  Thanks for sharing
the true spirit of the season!



Re: [Vo]:MFM air-flow calorimeter

2012-12-10 Thread Terry Blanton
Why not put the fan before the temperature sensors?  That way you
don't have to rely on the measurement of the voltage and current into
the fan.

He said something about pressure as the reason; but, I don't get that.

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
 I hate air-flow calorimeters but this looks like a beautiful piece of
 equipment to me:

 http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/youtube-video-feed/170-the-air-flow-calorimeter

 - Jed




Re: [Vo]:MFM air-flow calorimeter

2012-12-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:


 Why not put the fan before the temperature sensors?  That way you
 don't have to rely on the measurement of the voltage and current into
 the fan.

 He said something about pressure as the reason; but, I don't get that.


I had the same thought.

Anyway, it should not be hard to measure the power going into the fan. That
can be done with great accuracy.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:MFM air-flow calorimeter

2012-12-10 Thread David Roberson
I suspect that any form of calorimeter will raise additional questions.  Who 
can say at this point what the effect of the moving air will be upon the 
reaction taking place within the device?  It is not difficult to imagine that 
excess flow will cause the outer glass temperature to drop as it takes away 
heat.  We can not be positive that the reaction at the wire is not dependent 
upon the temperature of the hydrogen gas which would be reduced unless extreme 
care is taken.  This device is temperature dependent, so any time heat is 
disrupted things will change.


The other side of the coin it that it might now be possible to vary one of the 
parameters under control that can be measured.  This additional variable 
effects might shed light upon the operation of the device.


Dave



-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Dec 10, 2012 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:MFM air-flow calorimeter


Why not put the fan before the temperature sensors?  That way you
don't have to rely on the measurement of the voltage and current into
the fan.

He said something about pressure as the reason; but, I don't get that.

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
 I hate air-flow calorimeters but this looks like a beautiful piece of
 equipment to me:

 http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/youtube-video-feed/170-the-air-flow-calorimeter

 - Jed



 


Re: [Vo]:MFM air-flow calorimeter

2012-12-10 Thread Alberto De Souza
I wonder if it would not be better to do a simple comparison between
cells... For that, one could build four cells (just to be certain): 2
exactly as Celani's; and 2 again exactly as Celani's, but without active
wires. As you know, in the Celani's cells there are two wires: one active
and another just for heating. With proper mounting, the four cells would
have wires almost identical (size and initial resistance). Therefore, they
could power them up in series (only the wires used for heating). In this
case, all cells would receive the same amount of power and should show
about the same internal and external temperatures. Unless of course, as
many would expect (including me!), the active cells show excess heat. In
this case, considering the amount of excess heat Celani saw (~12W of excess
heat from 48W of input heat), it would be easy to spot the temperature
differences and, therefore, prove that the excess heat came from some
misterious reaction (LERN?) in the cells with an active wire in it.

By using two active and two inactive cells, one could rule out other
factors if the inactive cells show the same internal and external
temperatures and the active cells, at the same time, show significantly
higher temperatures in accordance with Celani's colorimetric formulation.

To avoid problems with pressure and gas composition, the cells could also
be connected in series with tubes and receive the gases in series at the
same time. Before power in, valves between cells (open during gas load)
could be used to isolate then to avoid heat transfer via gas.

I believe this approach is much easier and cheaper than flow calorimetry...

Dear sceptics, could you see excess flaws in this approach?

Alberto F. De Souza.

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:


 Why not put the fan before the temperature sensors?  That way you
 don't have to rely on the measurement of the voltage and current into
 the fan.

 He said something about pressure as the reason; but, I don't get that.


 I had the same thought.

 Anyway, it should not be hard to measure the power going into the fan.
 That can be done with great accuracy.

 - Jed