Re: [Vo]:Magnet Motor Video..Hmmmmm????? 267,500 hits- goes Viral.

2012-02-03 Thread William Beaty

On Fri, 3 Feb 2012, Harry Veeder wrote:

If theory predicted that it should run for x hours but instead ran
much longer would it qualify as a true FE device?


If it runs far longer ...then it merely supplies a more precise method for 
measuring the actual energy provided by your magnets!  :) 
Experimenter's Regress, where experiments force alteration in theory, 
but where theory forces alteration in interpretation of experiments.


Anyhow, I wonder how difficult it would be to *engineer* a magnet motor 
which drives itself against friction and runs for awhile before weakening 
its own magnets?  Something with low friction so it could operate for 
significant time?  What would such a device look like?



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Re: [Vo]:Magnet Motor Video..Hmmmmm????? 267,500 hits- goes Viral.

2012-02-03 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 3:54 AM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote:

 On Fri, 3 Feb 2012, Harry Veeder wrote:

 If theory predicted that it should run for x hours but instead ran
 much longer would it qualify as a true FE device?


 If it runs far longer ...then it merely supplies a more precise method for
 measuring the actual energy provided by your magnets!  :) Experimenter's
 Regress, where experiments force alteration in theory, but where theory
 forces alteration in interpretation of experiments.

 Anyhow, I wonder how difficult it would be to *engineer* a magnet motor
 which drives itself against friction and runs for awhile before weakening
 its own magnets?  Something with low friction so it could operate for
 significant time?  What would such a device look like?

 Probably like the Takahashi Motor:

http://www.world-enlightenment.com/OCR/Takahashi-Motor-Article/Takahashi-Motor-Article.htm

Which was installed in the Sciex Motor Scooter that our own Chris Tinsley
used to jaunt about London.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6954019.html

T


Re: [Vo]:Magnet Motor Video..Hmmmmm????? 267,500 hits- goes Viral.

2012-02-03 Thread pagnucco
Perhaps, someone could devise a long-running magnetic energy extractor
building on the simple approach in:

A Magnetic Linear Accelerator
http://www.physics.princeton.edu/~mcdonald/examples/lin_accel.pdf

If so, I bet it would be popular in toy stores.

William Beaty wrote:
 On Fri, 3 Feb 2012, Harry Veeder wrote:
 If theory predicted that it should run for x hours but instead ran
 much longer would it qualify as a true FE device?

 If it runs far longer ...then it merely supplies a more precise method for
 measuring the actual energy provided by your magnets!  :)
 Experimenter's Regress, where experiments force alteration in theory,
 but where theory forces alteration in interpretation of experiments.

 Anyhow, I wonder how difficult it would be to *engineer* a magnet motor
 which drives itself against friction and runs for awhile before weakening
 its own magnets?  Something with low friction so it could operate for
 significant time?  What would such a device look like?


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Re: [Vo]:Magnet Motor Video..Hmmmmm????? 267,500 hits- goes Viral.

2012-02-03 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 3:54 AM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote:
 On Fri, 3 Feb 2012, Harry Veeder wrote:

 If theory predicted that it should run for x hours but instead ran
 much longer would it qualify as a true FE device?


 If it runs far longer ...then it merely supplies a more precise method for
 measuring the actual energy provided by your magnets!  :) Experimenter's
 Regress, where experiments force alteration in theory, but where theory
 forces alteration in interpretation of experiments.

I am assuming one already knows how much energy was required to imbue
the magnets with magnetism.
This energy would be used to predict how long the device should run.
If the device ran considerably longer
then wouldn't that be considered evidence of FE?


 Anyhow, I wonder how difficult it would be to *engineer* a magnet motor
 which drives itself against friction and runs for awhile before weakening
 its own magnets?  Something with low friction so it could operate for
 significant time?  What would such a device look like?


harry



Re: [Vo]:Magnet Motor Video..Hmmmmm????? 267,500 hits- goes Viral.

2012-02-02 Thread Harry Veeder
In the comment section one person suggested it is powered by compressed air.
Harry
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 Greetings Vortex-L:

 I  have a strong dislike for Magnet Motors VideosBUT...this one seems
 to have gone viral 267,500+ hits --with many many likes:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLek_3Hpwusfeature=player_embedded

 Note: For Entertainment Purposes Only.

 Ron Kita...IS it a Fake?





Re: [Vo]:Magnet Motor Video..Hmmmmm????? 267,500 hits- goes Viral.

2012-02-02 Thread William Beaty


A couple of Free Energy prizes exist.  How about a prize for an elegant 
fake FE machine?   No batteries or ext. power source, that's no fun.


For example, suppose you could build one of these youtube magnet motors 
which actually accelerated and ran by itself ...but its magnets became 
weaker and weaker.  Design it intentionally that way.  It would stop after 
...minutes?  Hours?





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Re: [Vo]:Magnet Motor Video..Hmmmmm????? 267,500 hits- goes Viral.

2012-02-02 Thread Harry Veeder
If theory predicted that it should run for x hours but instead ran
much longer would it qualify as a true FE device?

Harry

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:29 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote:

 A couple of Free Energy prizes exist.  How about a prize for an elegant
 fake FE machine?   No batteries or ext. power source, that's no fun.

 For example, suppose you could build one of these youtube magnet motors
 which actually accelerated and ran by itself ...but its magnets became
 weaker and weaker.  Design it intentionally that way.  It would stop after
 ...minutes?  Hours?




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[Vo]:Magnet Motor Video..Hmmmmm????? 267,500 hits- goes Viral.

2012-02-01 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex-L:

I  have a strong dislike for Magnet Motors VideosBUT...this one seems
to have gone viral 267,500+ hits --with many many likes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLek_3Hpwusfeature=player_embedded

Note: For Entertainment Purposes Only.

Ron Kita...IS it a Fake?