Re: [Vo]:Mr. Beaty's absence should not be be taken as a form of passive approval of Mr. Jaro's posting content

2012-12-28 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax

At 03:05 PM 12/28/2012, leaking pen wrote:

I second the nomination.

I would think, though, that leaving this group as is, and more of a 
forced transfer of off topic replies to the new, off topic, group 
(which we already have, vortex b), and constant offenders have their 
posts put on a "per approval" basis.


Absent the list owner, at this point, there is no way to force 
replies, or list members, to a new group, and I, for one, would not 
paticipate in that group. No reason to do so, no public benefit. 
Anyone who wants to discuss any topic with me is free to email me 
privately, and the default is that I reply to such.


As to any purpose I had in responding to Jaro, it's been served, I 
see no reason to continue that, not now, anyway. 



Re: [Vo]:Mr. Beaty's absence should not be be taken as a form of passive approval of Mr. Jaro's posting content

2012-12-28 Thread leaking pen
I second the nomination.

I would think, though, that leaving this group as is, and more of a forced
transfer of off topic replies to the new, off topic, group (which we
already have, vortex b), and constant offenders have their posts put on a
"per approval" basis.

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Terry Blanton  wrote:

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> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:55 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson <
> orionwo...@charter.net> wrote:
>
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>> Perhaps Mr.
>> Blanton could stand in as one of the moderators, since Terry already has
>> extensive prior experience moderating large groups!
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> You honor me, sir.
>
> I recently volunteered in an email to BB.  No response, yet.
>


Re: [Vo]:Mr. Beaty's absence should not be be taken as a form of passive approval of Mr. Jaro's posting content

2012-12-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:55 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson <
orionwo...@charter.net> wrote:


> Perhaps Mr.
> Blanton could stand in as one of the moderators, since Terry already has
> extensive prior experience moderating large groups!


You honor me, sir.

I recently volunteered in an email to BB.  No response, yet.


[Vo]:Mr. Beaty's absence should not be be taken as a form of passive approval of Mr. Jaro's posting content

2012-12-28 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
The following brief exchange was extracted from a recent post, subject
thread: "[Vo]:Digital information storage in DNA"

 

Jojo Jaro wrote:

 

>>Your [Lomax's] opinion has certainly been noted by Bill.  Quite obviously,

>> I'm still here cause Bill saw nothing that I have done to deserve
banning.

 

 

Lomax Responded:

 

> Well, we don't know that. Bill sometimes pays little or no attention

> to this list for a time. I would expect Bill to comment either way,

> if he makes a decision.

 

 

* * * * * * * *

 

It would appear that Mr. Jaro has no intention of changing his intentions.
In fact, it would appear that Mr. Jaro feels justified in continuing his
intentions. Most, wisely ignore him, or filter out his posts, as I have
done. Nevertheless, Mr. Jaro's vitriol continues to leak through the posts
of others.

 

Mr. Beaty has not responded to my private inquiries on the matter either. In
the past Bill has always responded to personal inquiries - eventually. Bill
can be quite an interesting fellow to engage in private conversation with!
In my own private exchanges I noticed that Bill never shied away from
expressing personal opinions that might differ from my own. I always
respected Bill for being up front. Therefore, Bill's continued absence would
suggest a few things to me personally, such as: It would appear that Mr.
Beaty has not shown much active interest in the day-to-day routine
maintenance of the Vortex-L list - perhaps for several months now. 

 

Meanwhile, Mr. Jaro seems to be interpreting Mr. Beaty's absence as a
passive form of approval of his posting actions. 

 

I think it would be foolish for Mr. Jaro to assume he has interpreted Mr.
Beaty's apparent passivity accurately. Mr. Jaro might want to consider why
hasn't Mr. Beaty banned Mr. Lomax for his excessively lengthy rebuttals that
Mr. Jaro claims are full of lies, or for that manner, why not me since Mr.
Jaro has labeled me a troll. Mr. Jaro had suggested that I be banned after I
had posted an obviously deliberately crafted satirical commentary that
implied that the name, "Jojo" belonged to that of a "black dog". Jojo has
also called me a "retard" - so what additional "ruling" does one need in
order to be banned from Vortex-l! But here we both are! Mr. Lomax - who
continues to exhibit considerable knowledgeable on the subjects of Islam,
Christianity, and Buddhism (besides science!), and me, a new age
theoretician at heart, the "retard".

 

In my experience, Mr. Beaty has banned plenty of other trolls whose posting
behavior had been less acerbic than Mr. Jaro's incessant pot shots. For
example, a couple of recently banned trolls include:  "LORENHEYER" of
aol.com, and "Mary Yugo". IMO, neither of these two posters had ever come
close to the vitriol of Mr. Jaro's subject material. (Meanwhile, "Mary Yugo"
continues to play in other playgrounds. And, in LORENHEYER's case, he seems
content to post personal essays out on Vortex-b, much to Grok's, occasional
annoyance.)

 

As for Mr. Beaty's continued absence, perhaps the following statement might
help explain his apparent in-action:

 


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I did attempt to contact Mr. Beaty from this link, unsuccessfully I might
add. So, there you have it. The evidence would seem to suggest that these
days Mr. Beaty's interests lie elsewhere. Clearly, Mr. Beaty is a busy man
with many activities that demand much of his attention. I certainly don't
fault him for that! ;-)  When Mr. Beaty has taken notice of a string of
Vortex-l complaints it often seems to take the form of suddenly swooping in
and banning the poster, along with a terse explanation as to why he did so.
And then, just as suddenly as he swooped in... he's gone. Who was that
masked man!

 

As previously mentioned, Mr Beaty has a lot of interests besides moderating
Vortex-l. Here are just a few other subjects:

 

http://amasci.com/billb.html

 

 

Under the circumstances it might be time to consider moving, or perhaps
adding additional moderators. (THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION BTW, NOT A DEMAND!)
To expand on those suggestions:

 

* Mr. Beaty might want to consider appointing one or two additional
Vortex-l Moderators who can take turns playing a