Re: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR

[Teslaalset]

Thanks Axil, Edmund. That helps understanding. I urgently need to study
some basic quantum mechanics.



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>
>

Re: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR

[Edmund Storms]

Teslaalset, you asked a simple and reasonable question and you deserve  
an understandable answer.


The reaction being claimed is Ni + p = Cu with a proton being added to  
a Nickel isotope that results in the isotope of copper having the same  
number of neutrons.  Ni + p has greater mass than does the final Cu  
nucleus. Therefore, mass-energy must be lost during the process. As  
you can see, the mass of ALL the reactants and products need to be  
considered. These masses can be obtain from tables available on  
Wikipedia.


Ed
On Aug 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Axil Axil wrote:

We can assume that there is a significant amount of randomness in  
the LENR process that disrupts the nucleus. Another factor that adds  
to the unpredictability of the transmutation results is the added  
elements other than nickel in the reactor chamber that find their  
way into the reaction zone.


DGT documents these elements as inputs to the process in their  
ICCF-17 paper.


If you take a look at what transmutations occur during the proton-21  
reactor or that of Piantelli and Arata, you will see a high degree  
of random reaction products.


The elements go into the reaction zone many times and are reworked  
by the LENR reaction many times over and over as the reaction  
proceeds over time.


 The only quantum mechanical rule that applies is that positive  
nuclear binding energy must be released as a result of the reaction.  
If no energy is released, then the transmutation does not happen. In  
this process, both fusion and fission are likely to occur.


 It is more likely that light elements will evolve in the reaction  
then is the formation of heavy elements.


Even numbered elements like NI62 will react and elements with an odd  
number of nucleons will not. But these odd numbered elements that  
remain unaffected will serve to retain the nano-structures that  
support the reaction.








On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Teslaalset > wrote:
If we assume mass is converted into energy, heat in this case, then  
why would transmutations go in the directions of increased mass?


If Rossi is indicating Copper and Ni62 are key ingrediences, would  
Copper not be the starting point of creating Ni62 from Copper  
isotopic transmutations, or the little amount of Ni62 to trigger Co  
into a chain of Co isotopic tranmutations that also trigger other Ni  
isotopic transmutations?


I like to understand the role of both Ni62 and Copper in Rossi's  
patent applications a bit better.

Any help would be appreciated.

Re: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR

[Axil Axil]

We can assume that there is a significant amount of randomness in the LENR
process that disrupts the nucleus. Another factor that adds to the
unpredictability of the transmutation results is the added elements other
than nickel in the reactor chamber that find their way into the reaction
zone.



DGT documents these elements as inputs to the process in their ICCF-17
paper.


If you take a look at what transmutations occur during the proton-21
reactor or that of Piantelli and Arata, you will see a high degree of
random reaction products.


The elements go into the reaction zone many times and are reworked by the
LENR reaction many times over and over as the reaction proceeds over time.



 The only quantum mechanical rule that applies is that positive nuclear
binding energy must be released as a result of the reaction. If no energy
is released, then the transmutation does not happen. In this process, both
fusion and fission are likely to occur.



 It is more likely that light elements will evolve in the reaction then is
the formation of heavy elements.



Even numbered elements like NI62 will react and elements with an odd number
of nucleons will not. But these odd numbered elements that remain
unaffected will serve to retain the nano-structures that support the
reaction.












On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Teslaalset wrote:

> If we assume mass is converted into energy, heat in this case, then why
> would transmutations go in the directions of increased mass?
>
> If Rossi is indicating Copper and Ni62 are key ingrediences, would Copper
> not be the starting point of creating Ni62 from Copper isotopic
> transmutations, or the little amount of Ni62 to trigger Co into a chain of
> Co isotopic tranmutations that also trigger other Ni isotopic
> transmutations?
>
> I like to understand the role of both Ni62 and Copper in Rossi's patent
> applications a bit better.
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR

[Teslaalset]

If we assume mass is converted into energy, heat in this case, then why
would transmutations go in the directions of increased mass?

If Rossi is indicating Copper and Ni62 are key ingrediences, would Copper
not be the starting point of creating Ni62 from Copper isotopic
transmutations, or the little amount of Ni62 to trigger Co into a chain of
Co isotopic tranmutations that also trigger other Ni isotopic
transmutations?

I like to understand the role of both Ni62 and Copper in Rossi's patent
applications a bit better.
Any help would be appreciated.

Re: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR

[Teslaalset]

If there is substantial support on this approach we finally have a beter
name for this technology : "FIT", Forced Isotopic Transmutation" ;)

Op zaterdag 10 augustus 2013 schreef Teslaalset (robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com
):

> IInteresting analysis of LENR experiments by Norman D. Cook and Valerio
> Dallacasa, presented at ICCF 18. Shifts in isotopic percentages in LENR
> 'fuels'.
> It has some interesting hooks with Rossi's claim on Ni62 being essencial
> and Defkalion menitioning that Ni61 does not participate in Ni-H LENR
> reactions.
>
>
> https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36817/SimulationNuclearTransmutationPresentation.pdf?sequence=2
>
>
> Norman D. Cook is author of the book "Models of the Atomic Nucleus",
> published by Springer
>

Re: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR

[Axil Axil]

I believe that the transmutation characteristics of a given system are
implementation dependent. For example, the type of ash that Defkalion
produces will be different than what the Rossi reaction will produce.
Proton-21 will have a completely different ash transmutation profile then
these others.





The magnetic fields that each system produces vary in intensity and
character. These differences will affect how the magnetic field disrupts
the stability of the nucleus, which in turn will result in how the nucleus
will reorganize itself after disruption.






On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Arnaud Kodeck wrote:

>  Thanks Axil,
>
> ** **
>
> I do understand what you explained well. But what makes the theory
> valuable? How do they explain the difference between isotopes? What does
> make the value 86.13% in page 30 special? They play with Depletion Rates
> per Isotope, as they want, to fit the arbitrary 86.13%. Or is it something
> that is not well explained that enlighten the whole thing?
>
> ** **
>  --
>
> *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* samedi 10 août 2013 23:17
> *To:* vortex-l
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR
>
> ** **
>
> *I don’t understand how the depletion mechanism works.*
>
> Fission preferentially occurs in one isotope over the others. This isotope
> is depleted in relation to the others.
>
> For example, Ni58 undergoes fission more often than do NI60, Ni61, Ni62,
> and Ni64.
>
> In slide titled "Nickel Transmutation SUS304 alloy: 8% Nickel, 18%
> Chromium, 74% Iron …used in a high-temperature alloy+H20
> Hydrogen-generating system", this slide shows as follows:  
>
>
> Ni58 drops as a percentage from 68% to 42% in nickel isotope abundance.
> This means that Ni58 fissions into lighter elements more than the other
> nickel isotopes.
>
> ** **
>
> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Arnaud Kodeck 
> wrote:
>
> I’ve read the slides. I don’t understand how the depletion mechanism
> works. In other words, what makes this theory valuable? Everyone could give
> the depletion rate for each isotope that matches the experimental values.
> There is no discovery here. So there is something I’ve not understood.
>
>  
>   ----------
>
> *From:* Teslaalset [mailto:robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* samedi 10 août 2013 18:37
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR
>
>  
>
> IInteresting analysis of LENR experiments by Norman D. Cook and Valerio
> Dallacasa, presented at ICCF 18. Shifts in isotopic percentages in LENR
> 'fuels'. 
>
> It has some interesting hooks with Rossi's claim on Ni62 being essencial
> and Defkalion menitioning that Ni61 does not participate in Ni-H LENR
> reactions.
>
>
> https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36817/SimulationNuclearTransmutationPresentation.pdf?sequence=2<http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmospace%2Eumsystem%2Eedu%2Fxmlui%2Fbitstream%2Fhandle%2F10355%2F36817%2FSimulationNuclearTransmutationPresentation%2Epdf%3Fsequence%3D2&urlhash=D4f0&_t=tracking_anet>
>  
>
>  
>
> Norman D. Cook is author of the book "Models of the Atomic Nucleus",
> published by Springer
>
> ** **
>

Re: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR

[Axil Axil]

Unlike nickel, the depletion of Palladium seems to be relatively constant
across the various isotopes with only the middle weight isotopes slightly
favored in the increased rates of depletion.



On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Arnaud Kodeck wrote:

>  Thanks Axil,
>
> ** **
>
> I do understand what you explained well. But what makes the theory
> valuable? How do they explain the difference between isotopes? What does
> make the value 86.13% in page 30 special? They play with Depletion Rates
> per Isotope, as they want, to fit the arbitrary 86.13%. Or is it something
> that is not well explained that enlighten the whole thing?
>
> ** **
>  --
>
> *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* samedi 10 août 2013 23:17
> *To:* vortex-l
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR
>
> ** **
>
> *I don’t understand how the depletion mechanism works.*
>
> Fission preferentially occurs in one isotope over the others. This isotope
> is depleted in relation to the others.
>
> For example, Ni58 undergoes fission more often than do NI60, Ni61, Ni62,
> and Ni64.
>
> In slide titled "Nickel Transmutation SUS304 alloy: 8% Nickel, 18%
> Chromium, 74% Iron …used in a high-temperature alloy+H20
> Hydrogen-generating system", this slide shows as follows:  
>
>
> Ni58 drops as a percentage from 68% to 42% in nickel isotope abundance.
> This means that Ni58 fissions into lighter elements more than the other
> nickel isotopes.
>
> ** **
>
> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Arnaud Kodeck 
> wrote:
>
> I’ve read the slides. I don’t understand how the depletion mechanism
> works. In other words, what makes this theory valuable? Everyone could give
> the depletion rate for each isotope that matches the experimental values.
> There is no discovery here. So there is something I’ve not understood.
>
>  
>   ----------
>
> *From:* Teslaalset [mailto:robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* samedi 10 août 2013 18:37
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR
>
>  
>
> IInteresting analysis of LENR experiments by Norman D. Cook and Valerio
> Dallacasa, presented at ICCF 18. Shifts in isotopic percentages in LENR
> 'fuels'. 
>
> It has some interesting hooks with Rossi's claim on Ni62 being essencial
> and Defkalion menitioning that Ni61 does not participate in Ni-H LENR
> reactions.
>
>
> https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36817/SimulationNuclearTransmutationPresentation.pdf?sequence=2<http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmospace%2Eumsystem%2Eedu%2Fxmlui%2Fbitstream%2Fhandle%2F10355%2F36817%2FSimulationNuclearTransmutationPresentation%2Epdf%3Fsequence%3D2&urlhash=D4f0&_t=tracking_anet>
>  
>
>  
>
> Norman D. Cook is author of the book "Models of the Atomic Nucleus",
> published by Springer
>
> ** **
>

RE: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR

[Arnaud Kodeck]

Thanks Axil,

 

I do understand what you explained well. But what makes the theory valuable?
How do they explain the difference between isotopes? What does make the
value 86.13% in page 30 special? They play with Depletion Rates per Isotope,
as they want, to fit the arbitrary 86.13%. Or is it something that is not
well explained that enlighten the whole thing?

 

  _  

From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] 
Sent: samedi 10 août 2013 23:17
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR

 

I don’t understand how the depletion mechanism works.

Fission preferentially occurs in one isotope over the others. This isotope
is depleted in relation to the others.

For example, Ni58 undergoes fission more often than do NI60, Ni61, Ni62, and
Ni64.

In slide titled "Nickel Transmutation SUS304 alloy: 8% Nickel, 18% Chromium,
74% Iron …used in a high-temperature alloy+H20 Hydrogen-generating system",
this slide shows as follows:  


Ni58 drops as a percentage from 68% to 42% in nickel isotope abundance. This
means that Ni58 fissions into lighter elements more than the other nickel
isotopes.

 

On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Arnaud Kodeck 
wrote:

I’ve read the slides. I don’t understand how the depletion mechanism works.
In other words, what makes this theory valuable? Everyone could give the
depletion rate for each isotope that matches the experimental values. There
is no discovery here. So there is something I’ve not understood.

 

  _  

From: Teslaalset [mailto:robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: samedi 10 août 2013 18:37
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR

 

IInteresting analysis of LENR experiments by Norman D. Cook and Valerio
Dallacasa, presented at ICCF 18. Shifts in isotopic percentages in LENR
'fuels'. 

It has some interesting hooks with Rossi's claim on Ni62 being essencial and
Defkalion menitioning that Ni61 does not participate in Ni-H LENR reactions.


 
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%2Fxmlui%2Fbitstream%2Fhandle%2F10355%2F36817%2FSimulationNuclearTransmutati
onPresentation%2Epdf%3Fsequence%3D2&urlhash=D4f0&_t=tracking_anet>
https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36817/SimulationNu
clearTransmutationPresentation.pdf?sequence=2 

 

Norman D. Cook is author of the book "Models of the Atomic Nucleus",
published by Springer

 

Re: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR

[Axil Axil]

"If a reaction runs long enough, you would expect the 3He or 4He capture to
pile on -- to see increases of 2*3He or 3*3He, for example, in the Ni/H
system."

Expect a single and double 3He and single and double 4He decays to form
lithium, boron, and beryllium.


On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Eric Walker  wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Teslaalset 
> wrote:
>
> IInteresting analysis of LENR experiments by Norman D. Cook and Valerio
>> Dallacasa, presented at ICCF 18. Shifts in isotopic percentages in LENR
>> 'fuels'.
>> It has some interesting hooks with Rossi's claim on Ni62 being essencial
>> and Defkalion menitioning that Ni61 does not participate in Ni-H LENR
>> reactions.
>>
>
> Their slides are interesting.  I do not know what to make of their FCC
> nuclear model.  It does not seem to be required for what they are
> describing -- it is sort of an appendage that they have taken the
> opportunity to insert into their analysis.  What was interesting was that
> they were able to model the surface isotope transitions, and, by adjusting
> a parameter, get good agreement with the SIMS results from Mizuno and Rossi
> and with anecdote from Defkalion (perhaps they were using real spectra from
> Defkalion for their analysis as well).  What stands out in their modeling
> is that they were able to get the shifts without neutron capture (they used
> proton capture).
>
> Also, they looked at the question of "unreactive" 61Ni.  Apparently one
> basis for concluding that 61Ni is unreactive in the Ni/H system is the fact
> that its abundance in the SIMS spectra has not been seen to change in those
> instances that were analyzed.  If this is the basis for the conclusion, I
> think it could be mistaken.  It is also possible that 61Ni is in the middle
> of a series, and that depletion happens at one end of the series and
> enrichment at the other, and 61Ni is just a momentary stopping point along
> the way.  In that case, there would be lots of activity (i.e., 61Ni is
> "reactive"), but neither enrichment or depletion at that point.
>
> I used to be focused on proton capture as the source of isotope shifts,
> and on the possibility of the source of energy being the same as the source
> of isotope shifts -- that the energy was coming from the Ni+X or Pd+X
> reactions.  Now I suspect that it is not proton capture (or neutron
> capture), but fast 3He and 4He capture.  Note that this would also explain
> the apparent 2d enrichment noticed by some -- in that case it's just a fast
> 4He being absorbed by the nearby lattice nucleus.  If a reaction runs long
> enough, you would expect the 3He or 4He capture to pile on -- to see
> increases of 2*3He or 3*3He, for example, in the Ni/H system.
>
> No need to mention for the longtimers that this is all just speculation.
>
> Eric
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR

[Eric Walker]

On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Teslaalset wrote:

IInteresting analysis of LENR experiments by Norman D. Cook and Valerio
> Dallacasa, presented at ICCF 18. Shifts in isotopic percentages in LENR
> 'fuels'.
> It has some interesting hooks with Rossi's claim on Ni62 being essencial
> and Defkalion menitioning that Ni61 does not participate in Ni-H LENR
> reactions.
>

Their slides are interesting.  I do not know what to make of their FCC
nuclear model.  It does not seem to be required for what they are
describing -- it is sort of an appendage that they have taken the
opportunity to insert into their analysis.  What was interesting was that
they were able to model the surface isotope transitions, and, by adjusting
a parameter, get good agreement with the SIMS results from Mizuno and Rossi
and with anecdote from Defkalion (perhaps they were using real spectra from
Defkalion for their analysis as well).  What stands out in their modeling
is that they were able to get the shifts without neutron capture (they used
proton capture).

Also, they looked at the question of "unreactive" 61Ni.  Apparently one
basis for concluding that 61Ni is unreactive in the Ni/H system is the fact
that its abundance in the SIMS spectra has not been seen to change in those
instances that were analyzed.  If this is the basis for the conclusion, I
think it could be mistaken.  It is also possible that 61Ni is in the middle
of a series, and that depletion happens at one end of the series and
enrichment at the other, and 61Ni is just a momentary stopping point along
the way.  In that case, there would be lots of activity (i.e., 61Ni is
"reactive"), but neither enrichment or depletion at that point.

I used to be focused on proton capture as the source of isotope shifts, and
on the possibility of the source of energy being the same as the source of
isotope shifts -- that the energy was coming from the Ni+X or Pd+X
reactions.  Now I suspect that it is not proton capture (or neutron
capture), but fast 3He and 4He capture.  Note that this would also explain
the apparent 2d enrichment noticed by some -- in that case it's just a fast
4He being absorbed by the nearby lattice nucleus.  If a reaction runs long
enough, you would expect the 3He or 4He capture to pile on -- to see
increases of 2*3He or 3*3He, for example, in the Ni/H system.

No need to mention for the longtimers that this is all just speculation.

Eric

Re: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR

[Axil Axil]

*I don’t understand how the depletion mechanism works.*

Fission preferentially occurs in one isotope over the others. This isotope
is depleted in relation to the others.

For example, Ni58 undergoes fission more often than do NI60, Ni61, Ni62,
and Ni64.

In slide titled "Nickel Transmutation SUS304 alloy: 8% Nickel, 18%
Chromium, 74% Iron …used in a high-temperature alloy+H20
Hydrogen-generating system", this slide shows as follows:


Ni58 drops as a percentage from 68% to 42% in nickel isotope abundance.
This means that Ni58 fissions into lighter elements more than the other
nickel isotopes.


On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Arnaud Kodeck wrote:

> **
>
> I’ve read the slides. I don’t understand how the depletion mechanism
> works. In other words, what makes this theory valuable? Everyone could give
> the depletion rate for each isotope that matches the experimental values.
> There is no discovery here. So there is something I’ve not understood.
>
> ** **
>  --
>
> *From:* Teslaalset [mailto:robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* samedi 10 août 2013 18:37
> *To:* **vortex-l@eskimo.com**
> *Subject:* [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR
>
> ** **
>
> IInteresting analysis of LENR experiments by Norman D. Cook and Valerio
> Dallacasa, presented at ICCF 18. Shifts in isotopic percentages in LENR
> 'fuels'. 
>
> It has some interesting hooks with Rossi's claim on Ni62 being essencial
> and Defkalion menitioning that Ni61 does not participate in Ni-H LENR
> reactions.
>
>
> https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36817/SimulationNuclearTransmutationPresentation.pdf?sequence=2<http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmospace%2Eumsystem%2Eedu%2Fxmlui%2Fbitstream%2Fhandle%2F10355%2F36817%2FSimulationNuclearTransmutationPresentation%2Epdf%3Fsequence%3D2&urlhash=D4f0&_t=tracking_anet>
>  
>
> ** **
>
> Norman D. Cook is author of the book "Models of the Atomic Nucleus",
> published by Springer
>

Re: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR

[Brad Lowe]

Andrea Rossi is a fan of Dan Cook and recommends his book:

http://www.amazon.com/Models-Atomic-Nucleus-Unification-Nucleons/dp/3642147364(~$70)

And Don Wicher writes at https://www.facebook.com/groups/ECat.LENR/ :
Quote:

In addition to his book which Rossi thinks so highly of Norman Cook is a
very active player in the continuing development of a theoretical basis for
LENR.

He presented a paper at ICCF 18 and had two significant Poster Papers on
display. One of the references on a Poster Paper indicates he is also
working with Carpinteri.

This is the link to the paper that was presented. It reports results of a
simulation that seems to accurately predict experimental ash data. Thats a
first IMO.
https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36817/SimulationNuclearTransmutationPresentation.pdf?sequence=2

Here are links to the two Poster Papers

https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36827/MagneticForceActingNucleons.pdf?sequence=1

https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36539/QuantumNucleodynamicsAbstract.pdf?sequence=1

Note that this last Poster Paper has the reference to a forthcoming paper
indicating a collaboration with Carpenteri. [7] A. Carpinteri, N.D. Cook,
D. Veneziano, et al.
Mecchanica(in press, 2013).

End Quote




On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Arnaud Kodeck wrote:

> **
>
> I’ve read the slides. I don’t understand how the depletion mechanism
> works. In other words, what makes this theory valuable? Everyone could give
> the depletion rate for each isotope that matches the experimental values.
> There is no discovery here. So there is something I’ve not understood.
>
> ** **
>  --
>
> *From:* Teslaalset [mailto:robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* samedi 10 août 2013 18:37
> *To:* **vortex-l@eskimo.com**
> *Subject:* [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR
>
> ** **
>
> IInteresting analysis of LENR experiments by Norman D. Cook and Valerio
> Dallacasa, presented at ICCF 18. Shifts in isotopic percentages in LENR
> 'fuels'. 
>
> It has some interesting hooks with Rossi's claim on Ni62 being essencial
> and Defkalion menitioning that Ni61 does not participate in Ni-H LENR
> reactions.
>
>
> https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36817/SimulationNuclearTransmutationPresentation.pdf?sequence=2<http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmospace%2Eumsystem%2Eedu%2Fxmlui%2Fbitstream%2Fhandle%2F10355%2F36817%2FSimulationNuclearTransmutationPresentation%2Epdf%3Fsequence%3D2&urlhash=D4f0&_t=tracking_anet>
>  
>
> ** **
>
> Norman D. Cook is author of the book "Models of the Atomic Nucleus",
> published by Springer
>

RE: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR

[Arnaud Kodeck]

I’ve read the slides. I don’t understand how the depletion mechanism works.
In other words, what makes this theory valuable? Everyone could give the
depletion rate for each isotope that matches the experimental values. There
is no discovery here. So there is something I’ve not understood.

 

  _  

From: Teslaalset [mailto:robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: samedi 10 août 2013 18:37
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR

 

IInteresting analysis of LENR experiments by Norman D. Cook and Valerio
Dallacasa, presented at ICCF 18. Shifts in isotopic percentages in LENR
'fuels'. 

It has some interesting hooks with Rossi's claim on Ni62 being essencial and
Defkalion menitioning that Ni61 does not participate in Ni-H LENR reactions.


 
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[Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR

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IInteresting analysis of LENR experiments by Norman D. Cook and Valerio
Dallacasa, presented at ICCF 18. Shifts in isotopic percentages in LENR
'fuels'.
It has some interesting hooks with Rossi's claim on Ni62 being essencial
and Defkalion menitioning that Ni61 does not participate in Ni-H LENR
reactions.

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Norman D. Cook is author of the book "Models of the Atomic Nucleus",
published by Springer