Re: [Vo]:Novel physics/chemistry?

2014-08-25 Thread H Veeder
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:47 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:

 In reply to  H Veeder's message of Fri, 22 Aug 2014 02:32:18 -0400:
 Hi,
 [snip]
 The novel part happens when the drop of metal turns black and then
 transparent and then explodes.
 Harry
 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIGMfai_ICg
 
 Invisible Metal (better than transparent Aluminium!)

 I don't think it is transparent metal. IMO, what you see at the end is a
 droplet
 of molten alkali-hydroxide momentarily suspended on a layer of Hydrogen and
 steam. Molten hydroxide should indeed be transparent. Note that it doesn't
 become transparent until the dark blue disappears, which happens when
 there are
 no more solvated electrons, and that doesn't happen until the last of the
 metal
 is gone. Furthermore, while metal exists, heat is being generated to
 maintain
 the steam layer, once it's gone, the steam layer vanishes and the droplet
 makes
 contact with the water. Alkali-hydroxides dissolve in water quite nicely,
 particularly when hot, which is what causes the explosion at the end.

 Regards,

 Robin van Spaandonk

 http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html


The narrator of the video says if the drop is alkali-hydroxide it should
sink because according to him alkali-hydroxide is denser than water.
Are you arguing that the drop is indeed alkali-hydroxide but it is kept
afloat by riding a cushion steam like a hovercraft rides a cushion of air?

Harry


Re: [Vo]:Novel physics/chemistry?

2014-08-25 Thread mixent
In reply to  H Veeder's message of Mon, 25 Aug 2014 21:34:52 -0400:
Hi Harry,

Now actually *read* the message you replied to.

On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:47 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:

 In reply to  H Veeder's message of Fri, 22 Aug 2014 02:32:18 -0400:
 Hi,
 [snip]
 The novel part happens when the drop of metal turns black and then
 transparent and then explodes.
 Harry
 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIGMfai_ICg
 
 Invisible Metal (better than transparent Aluminium!)

 I don't think it is transparent metal. IMO, what you see at the end is a
 droplet
 of molten alkali-hydroxide momentarily suspended on a layer of Hydrogen and
 steam. Molten hydroxide should indeed be transparent. Note that it doesn't
 become transparent until the dark blue disappears, which happens when
 there are
 no more solvated electrons, and that doesn't happen until the last of the
 metal
 is gone. Furthermore, while metal exists, heat is being generated to
 maintain
 the steam layer, once it's gone, the steam layer vanishes and the droplet
 makes
 contact with the water. Alkali-hydroxides dissolve in water quite nicely,
 particularly when hot, which is what causes the explosion at the end.

 Regards,

 Robin van Spaandonk

 http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html


The narrator of the video says if the drop is alkali-hydroxide it should
sink because according to him alkali-hydroxide is denser than water.
Are you arguing that the drop is indeed alkali-hydroxide but it is kept
afloat by riding a cushion steam like a hovercraft rides a cushion of air?

Harry
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html



[Vo]:Novel physics/chemistry?

2014-08-22 Thread H Veeder
The novel part happens when the drop of metal turns black and then
transparent and then explodes.
Harry


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIGMfai_ICg

Invisible Metal (better than transparent Aluminium!)

Published on Apr 22, 2014

Weird, weird shit happens when alkali metals such as sodium, potassium and
so on react with water.

The bottom line is that noone has looked at this sort of thing in detail
for about 100 years.

It is therefore not unsurprising that no one was crazy enough to try to get
close enough to these explosions to see if anything interesting was
happening..oh boy does interesting stuff happen.


Re: [Vo]:Novel physics/chemistry?

2014-08-22 Thread mixent
In reply to  H Veeder's message of Fri, 22 Aug 2014 02:32:18 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
The novel part happens when the drop of metal turns black and then
transparent and then explodes.
Harry


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIGMfai_ICg

Invisible Metal (better than transparent Aluminium!)

I don't think it is transparent metal. IMO, what you see at the end is a droplet
of molten alkali-hydroxide momentarily suspended on a layer of Hydrogen and
steam. Molten hydroxide should indeed be transparent. Note that it doesn't
become transparent until the dark blue disappears, which happens when there are
no more solvated electrons, and that doesn't happen until the last of the metal
is gone. Furthermore, while metal exists, heat is being generated to maintain
the steam layer, once it's gone, the steam layer vanishes and the droplet makes
contact with the water. Alkali-hydroxides dissolve in water quite nicely,
particularly when hot, which is what causes the explosion at the end.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html