[Vo]:OT - formally just interesting- other FatCats in some trouble

2011-10-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From: Peter Gluck

 History's bad wordplay:
 http://www.alternet.org/story/152698/millionaire%27s_march%
3A_protesters_hit_the_streets_in_ny_and_visit_the_1_percent_at_their_homes?a
kid=7693.112117.nEOOaLrd=1t=2

 1 percent richest = FatCats

 Just signalling it, not to be discussed, please

Too late, Peter,

I DO feel compelled to briefly discuss the political mater... just a tad
because I'm an American, and I'm deeply concerned about the direction my
country has been headed lately. It's not pretty.

IMO, it is appalling how many republican candidates vying for the president
of the United States in 2012 have either dismissed or completely condemned
these grass-roots demonstrations. They have side-stepped the fact that the
formation of the movement is pretty much how their own super-conservative
Tea Party movement began from individuals unhappy about the way things have
been handled. It has been called the Tea Party of the Left. An appropriate
description.

This movement, of course, reminds me of my own participation in the
Wisconsin demonstrations last winter against super conservative Governor,
Mr. Walker, who is essentially my employer, me being a state employee.
Walker is now facing the possibility of being recalled. Petitions to have
him recalled will begin in earnest in November. Possible re-elections may
proceed around April and May of next year.

Meanwhile, in regards to the 99% movement, I heard republican candidate,
Herman Cain, describe the movement as comprised of a bunch of disgruntled
people blaming rich people for having jobs (and wealth) while they
themselves don't. Herman's solution? Don't blame the rich for having jobs
and having gotten rich from their efforts. His solution: go out and work for
the wealth you covet from the rich. I guess from Herman's POV many of 9% who
are currently unemployed must be lazy, or something stupid like that. He's
clueless, and yet there are enough people in this country who apparently buy
into his profound ignorance of the situation. Meanwhile, Michele Bachmann
stated that she thought she saw a lot of union organizers in the midst of
99% crowds. Therefore, I guess that from her POV it makes the crowds nothing
more than puppets doing the bidding of these nasty Union organizers. And,
here too, there are enough people in this country who apparently buy into
her POV as well.

I am concerned about what will happen in 2012. I hope for the best, but to
be honest I currently feel pessimistic. Perhaps It's because I haven't had
my cup'o'java this morning yet.

Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:OT - formally just interesting- other FatCats in some trouble

2011-10-12 Thread Peter Gluck
You started it, my friend- but I have raised the problem
in the final part of this essay:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/02/sue-ellen-principle-and-kaltwasser.html

It seems people still do not love Egality because it is an impossible,
biased, false ant-mertocratic concept. But slowly the start to hate
Inequality when it is in malign forms.
Take this meta-movement and the Arab spring.
It is important however that the solutions found should be better than the
original problems.

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:55 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson 
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:

 From: Peter Gluck

  History's bad wordplay:
  http://www.alternet.org/story/152698/millionaire%27s_march%

 3A_protesters_hit_the_streets_in_ny_and_visit_the_1_percent_at_their_homes?a
 kid=7693.112117.nEOOaLrd=1t=2

  1 percent richest = FatCats
 
  Just signalling it, not to be discussed, please

 Too late, Peter,

 I DO feel compelled to briefly discuss the political mater... just a tad
 because I'm an American, and I'm deeply concerned about the direction my
 country has been headed lately. It's not pretty.

 IMO, it is appalling how many republican candidates vying for the president
 of the United States in 2012 have either dismissed or completely condemned
 these grass-roots demonstrations. They have side-stepped the fact that the
 formation of the movement is pretty much how their own super-conservative
 Tea Party movement began from individuals unhappy about the way things have
 been handled. It has been called the Tea Party of the Left. An appropriate
 description.

 This movement, of course, reminds me of my own participation in the
 Wisconsin demonstrations last winter against super conservative Governor,
 Mr. Walker, who is essentially my employer, me being a state employee.
 Walker is now facing the possibility of being recalled. Petitions to have
 him recalled will begin in earnest in November. Possible re-elections may
 proceed around April and May of next year.

 Meanwhile, in regards to the 99% movement, I heard republican candidate,
 Herman Cain, describe the movement as comprised of a bunch of disgruntled
 people blaming rich people for having jobs (and wealth) while they
 themselves don't. Herman's solution? Don't blame the rich for having jobs
 and having gotten rich from their efforts. His solution: go out and work
 for
 the wealth you covet from the rich. I guess from Herman's POV many of 9%
 who
 are currently unemployed must be lazy, or something stupid like that. He's
 clueless, and yet there are enough people in this country who apparently
 buy
 into his profound ignorance of the situation. Meanwhile, Michele Bachmann
 stated that she thought she saw a lot of union organizers in the midst of
 99% crowds. Therefore, I guess that from her POV it makes the crowds
 nothing
 more than puppets doing the bidding of these nasty Union organizers. And,
 here too, there are enough people in this country who apparently buy into
 her POV as well.

 I am concerned about what will happen in 2012. I hope for the best, but to
 be honest I currently feel pessimistic. Perhaps It's because I haven't had
 my cup'o'java this morning yet.

 Regards,
 Steven Vincent Johnson
 www.OrionWorks.com
 www.zazzle.com/orionworks




-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com


Re: [Vo]:OT - formally just interesting- other FatCats in some trouble

2011-10-12 Thread peatbog
Kindly take this stuff to Vortex-b.



Re: [Vo]:OT - formally just interesting- other FatCats in some trouble

2011-10-12 Thread Man on Bridges

Hi,

On 12-10-2011 15:08, Peter Gluck wrote:
It seems people still do not love Egality because it is an impossible, 
biased, false ant-mertocratic concept. But slowly the start to hate 
Inequality when it is in malign forms.

Take this meta-movement and the Arab spring.
It is important however that the solutions found should be better than 
the original problems.


Or as they say: If you ain't part of the solution, you are part of the 
problem


Kind regards,

MoB



Re: [Vo]:OT - formally just interesting- other FatCats in some trouble

2011-10-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
 Kindly take this stuff to Vortex-b.

Hi Bog,

I've said my peace. I guess one could say I've had my cup'o'java.

However, in regards to your request. No.

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:OT - formally just interesting- other FatCats in some trouble

2011-10-12 Thread peatbog
Replied to in vortex-b.



Re: [Vo]:OT - formally just interesting- other FatCats in some trouble

2011-10-12 Thread peatbog
 Replied to in vortex-b.
 

I got a 550 failure from the attempt to send the reply to
vortex-b, so maybe Popfile can sort the political junk from the
juicy fringe-science stuff.



Re: [Vo]:OT - formally just interesting- other FatCats in some trouble

2011-10-12 Thread Terry Blanton
vortex...@eskimo.com is alive and well:

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Just nod if you can hear me.  Is there anyone at  home?

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On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:27 PM, peatbog peat...@teksavvy.com wrote:
 Replied to in vortex-b.


 I got a 550 failure from the attempt to send the reply to
 vortex-b, so maybe Popfile can sort the political junk from the
 juicy fringe-science stuff.