Re: [Vo]:Parkhomov has done calibration

2014-12-31 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Jed wrote:
I will add you to my auto-delete file, to eliminate this irritation.
***Jed, please don't.  I enjoy your exchanges with Blaze.  It's so
entertaining and you always add some measure of fact that I had not
considered beforehand.  Chalk it up to the education process.

On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote:

 This gives me much more confidence in the results.

 Noted!I am highly skeptical however.  I think it's great MFMP is
 taking the time to try to reproduce this, which they definitely should, but
 I think expectations should be that it's very unlikely anything will result
 of this.


 Based on what? Where the hell do you come up with these expectations?
 More throwing darts in the dark? Your statements here show that you do not
 know the first thing about cold fusion! Or calorimetry, or any other
 relevant discipline. You have not made a single technical assertion in the
 last several messages. All you talk about is your own magic hocus-pocus ESP
 ability to make assertions about the truth or falsity of experimental
 results without *any consideration* of the technical details. Without
 even mentioning them!

 How can you be highly skeptical about a subject you don't know the first
 thing about? That is like me being highly skeptical of quantum mechanics.

 I am sick of your blather. I expect other people are sick of hearing that
 I am sick of you. So I will add you to my auto-delete file, to eliminate
 this irritation.

 - Jed




[Vo]:Parkhomov has done calibration

2014-12-30 Thread Peter Gluck
Frank Acland was so kind to ask him
here is the  question + answer.

http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/12/30/alexander-parkhomov-on-calibration-in-his-test/

 What else could he do? Except minimizing losses through insulation?
The aim of that test was to show that there is excess heat. It is.
Peter

-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com


Re: [Vo]:Parkhomov has done calibration

2014-12-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
peter...@gmail.com wrote:


 Frank Acland was so kind to ask him
 here is the  question + answer.


 http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/12/30/alexander-parkhomov-on-calibration-in-his-test/


That's great! Thank you Cousin Peter, and thanks to Frank Acland too. The
e-cat World article says he found a heat balance to within 10%. That's
fine. That is about what I expected. It says:

Measurements with the electro heater which isn’t containing fuel at the
power up to 1000 W were taken. The quantity of the consumed electric power
after boiling of water and the amount of heat necessary for heating and
evaporation added for preservation of initial level, coincided within 10%.




  What else could he do? Except minimizing losses through insulation?


There is no need to do anything else. The excess heat is well above 10% so
the uncertainty does not matter.

Good job Parkhomov!

This gives me much more confidence in the results.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Parkhomov has done calibration

2014-12-30 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
This gives me much more confidence in the results.

Noted!I am highly skeptical however.  I think it's great MFMP is taking
the time to try to reproduce this, which they definitely should, but I
think expectations should be that it's very unlikely anything will result
of this.

I think everyone should also realize science is about trying things, even
if they're a low chance of happening.   If something only has a 5% chance
of working and you do about 20 of them, you'll hit upon something.

The way everyone is talking about this experiment I think is very immature
and far to exuberant.I'm sure 100s of labs have tried to heat up this
combination of powdered metals before.

There's this great robotic system that tries out 1000s of medicines that
have been approved by the FDA for dozens of different diseases.The
chance is so small that'll it work, but because it's a robot it can try so
many different ones.   Eventually it finds something that works and is
already approved by the FDA.

That is science.Having confidence because some random joe from russia
creates a webpage with graphs that we have recreated cold fusion - is not.
It's gullible and naive and when nothing comes of this you're going to look
very foolish.

A lot of people are also going to be less inclined to try the next thing
too, even though they should.



On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
wrote:

 peter...@gmail.com wrote:


 Frank Acland was so kind to ask him
 here is the  question + answer.


 http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/12/30/alexander-parkhomov-on-calibration-in-his-test/


 That's great! Thank you Cousin Peter, and thanks to Frank Acland too. The
 e-cat World article says he found a heat balance to within 10%. That's
 fine. That is about what I expected. It says:

 Measurements with the electro heater which isn’t containing fuel at the
 power up to 1000 W were taken. The quantity of the consumed electric power
 after boiling of water and the amount of heat necessary for heating and
 evaporation added for preservation of initial level, coincided within 10%.
 




  What else could he do? Except minimizing losses through insulation?


 There is no need to do anything else. The excess heat is well above 10% so
 the uncertainty does not matter.

 Good job Parkhomov!

 This gives me much more confidence in the results.

 - Jed




Re: [Vo]:Parkhomov has done calibration

2014-12-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote:

This gives me much more confidence in the results.

 Noted!I am highly skeptical however.  I think it's great MFMP is
 taking the time to try to reproduce this, which they definitely should, but
 I think expectations should be that it's very unlikely anything will result
 of this.


Based on what? Where the hell do you come up with these expectations?
More throwing darts in the dark? Your statements here show that you do not
know the first thing about cold fusion! Or calorimetry, or any other
relevant discipline. You have not made a single technical assertion in the
last several messages. All you talk about is your own magic hocus-pocus ESP
ability to make assertions about the truth or falsity of experimental
results without *any consideration* of the technical details. Without even
mentioning them!

How can you be highly skeptical about a subject you don't know the first
thing about? That is like me being highly skeptical of quantum mechanics.

I am sick of your blather. I expect other people are sick of hearing that I
am sick of you. So I will add you to my auto-delete file, to eliminate this
irritation.

- Jed