Re: [Vo]:Politics and 'politics'....

2009-06-15 Thread Edmund Storms
I agree with the view expressed here by Lawrence. In addition, this is  
a group of individuals who like to get to know each other while they  
discussion the scientific ideas. This social interaction is important  
and I would like to have it accepted as a normal part of these  
communications. Of course, once a person has been identified as not  
using this interaction for the intended purpose, i.e. being a troll,  
such interaction should be immediately stopped here and continued in  
private, if that is necessary.  Also, a little political and/or  
religious discussion helps spice up the exchange if it is done without  
personal attack while providing unique information about the  
subjects.  The people on this site have some important ideas that I  
have enjoyed learning. I would hate to see this stopped completely  
just because certain rules must be followed exactly.


Ed



On Jun 15, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Lawrence de Bivort wrote:

It seems to me that there are, for our purposes here, two very  
different

politics.

There is political commentary dealing with the world at large.  
Sometimes it

is informed commentary, sometimes it is rant, and sometimes it is mere
labeling and insult.

And then there is the 'politics' of CF, or other technologies/science.

If CF has been preoccupied over the last 20 years with anything, it  
is the

political dimension of how it recovers from a false linguistic and
professional start, how it reestablishes itself within the normal  
world of
science, how it finds funding and manages its overall evolution, how  
it
attracts additional scientists and labs, and how it presents itself  
to the

functions of governance, venture capital, and the general public.

I would guess that the CF community here in Vortex-l would like to  
be able
to discuss the political aspects of CF per se, and I would like to  
seek

clarification of this from William Beaty.

Is my interpretation of what is and what is not acceptable here,  
correct?


Regards to all,

Lawrence





[Vo]:Politics and 'politics'....

2009-06-15 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
It seems to me that there are, for our purposes here, two very different
politics.

There is political commentary dealing with the world at large. Sometimes it
is informed commentary, sometimes it is rant, and sometimes it is mere
labeling and insult.

And then there is the 'politics' of CF, or other technologies/science.

If CF has been preoccupied over the last 20 years with anything, it is the
political dimension of how it recovers from a false linguistic and
professional start, how it reestablishes itself within the normal world of
science, how it finds funding and manages its overall evolution, how it
attracts additional scientists and labs, and how it presents itself to the
functions of governance, venture capital, and the general public.

I would guess that the CF community here in Vortex-l would like to be able
to discuss the political aspects of CF per se, and I would like to seek
clarification of this from William Beaty.

Is my interpretation of what is and what is not acceptable here, correct?

Regards to all,

Lawrence