Re: [Vo]:Rossi replies to my email

2011-11-21 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
 wrote:
> As for unit prices,
> why would they go more than say 10% below Rossi's price?

Different market segments need to see different ROIs.  Domestic users
would prefer a ROI of 3 years while a Industrial user might be happy
with a 10 year ROI since their investment is so much higher.

T



Re: [Vo]:Rossi replies to my email

2011-11-21 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
I observe their blog. Lets see what they have when they reveal their 
specs and have public Black Box test results like Rossi has. As for unit 
prices, why would they go more than say 10% below Rossi's price? 
Anything above COP 10 will have little influence on buying choice as the 
input energy cost is then very low and the plant cost is the main factor 
in the LCOE determination. Like everything, ROI, reliability, plant life 
span, O&M costs and risk drives the buying decision.


AG


On 11/21/2011 11:32 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:

Defkalion will sell you a 45 kW(th) plant.  We expect to see their
announcement this week.

T






Re: [Vo]:Rossi replies to my email

2011-11-21 Thread Peter Gluck
He also says a 1 MW model cannot be reverse-engineered, but a individual
E-cat can. Can this be true?
Peter

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Jed Rothwell  wrote:

> Terry Blanton  wrote:
>
> Defkalion will sell you a 45 kW(th) plant.  We expect to see
>> their announcement this week.
>>
>
> It might be a good idea for AR to approach Defkalion rather than Rossi.
> They claim to have better reactors. I think their pricing is more
> reasonable. I cannot see much use for a 100 kW reactor that will be
> obsolete in a matter of months. A 1 MW model is even worse.
>
> I have no inside knowledge but I suppose Rossi wants to sell only a few
> large reactors so that he can earn a lot of money per unit, and so he can
> keep an eye on the customer. From his point of view it is better to sell a
> single 1 MW reactor than a hundred 10 kW reactors. If he had a patent,
> things would be different.
>
> - Jed
>
>


-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
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Re: [Vo]:Rossi replies to my email

2011-11-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton  wrote:

Defkalion will sell you a 45 kW(th) plant.  We expect to see
> their announcement this week.
>

It might be a good idea for AR to approach Defkalion rather than Rossi.
They claim to have better reactors. I think their pricing is more
reasonable. I cannot see much use for a 100 kW reactor that will be
obsolete in a matter of months. A 1 MW model is even worse.

I have no inside knowledge but I suppose Rossi wants to sell only a few
large reactors so that he can earn a lot of money per unit, and so he can
keep an eye on the customer. From his point of view it is better to sell a
single 1 MW reactor than a hundred 10 kW reactors. If he had a patent,
things would be different.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Rossi replies to my email

2011-11-21 Thread Terry Blanton
Defkalion will sell you a 45 kW(th) plant.  We expect to see their
announcement this week.

T



Re: [Vo]:Rossi replies to my email

2011-11-21 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
$200k for a 100 kW plant I can fund as I believe LENR is real. $2,000k 
for a 1 MW plant will take some time and more LENR proof than I 
currently have.


AG


On 11/21/2011 9:00 PM, Akira Shirakawa wrote:

On 2011-11-21 02:35, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:

"Dear Sirs,
We are selling only 1 MW thermal plants, so far.
Warm Regards,
A.R."


That's too bad.


While I do understand what a full order book can do, it is disappointing
to say the least. So much for his 100 kW min size offer. May still be
doable but not until Feb 2012.


Do mean you might be able to order 1 MW plant, but not before Feb 2012?

Cheers,
S.A.






Re: [Vo]:Rossi replies to my email

2011-11-21 Thread Akira Shirakawa

On 2011-11-21 02:35, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:

"Dear Sirs,
We are selling only 1 MW thermal plants, so far.
Warm Regards,
A.R."


That's too bad.


While I do understand what a full order book can do, it is disappointing
to say the least. So much for his 100 kW min size offer. May still be
doable but not until Feb 2012.


Do mean you might be able to order 1 MW plant, but not before Feb 2012?

Cheers,
S.A.



[Vo]:Rossi replies to my email

2011-11-20 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat

"Dear Sirs,
We are selling only 1 MW thermal plants, so far.
Warm Regards,
A.R."

While I do understand what a full order book can do, it is disappointing 
to say the least. So much for his 100 kW min size offer. May still be 
doable but not until Feb 2012.


AG