Re: [Vo]:The Brick
Il 22 febbraio 2012 23:23, Terry Blanton ha scritto: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Michele Comitini > wrote: >> I agree this seems idiotic. > > Indeed! PDGT is installing a GSM link to inform them if their > Hyperions need service. And they cost a lot less!! the needed hardware board could range around 40$ for an order 200 < n < 1000 less for more. Still there be need some good firmware and good engineering and those would bring the price much higher but only for small volumes. Something like the following does provide much of what is needed: http://www.telit.com/en/products.php?p_id=3&p_ac=show&p=109 mic
Re: [Vo]:The Brick
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Michele Comitini wrote: > I agree this seems idiotic. Indeed! PDGT is installing a GSM link to inform them if their Hyperions need service. And they cost a lot less!! Fortunately, my Tesla stock is still trading around $3500 per share, twice my investment price. I wonder how Toyota will solve this with the RAV4 using a Tesla battery? I understand the Leaf will not allow one to discharge the battery beyond a certain level. This further limits the range but avoids damage to the battery. T
Re: [Vo]:The Brick
I agree this seems idiotic. They could just isolate the battery pack from any connection except a small controller that wakes up at regular intervals or in case of external events and checks the status. It needs a board with 3d accelerometer, pressure sensor, temp sensor, gps, and of course gpio connected radio key decoder. The board can have 3G capability to send alert if battery is dying and other events through sms, email or rpc. The status of the battery would be know remotely with accuracy. The board could run on its own battery (2 AA would suffice for a year). It would also function as a car alarm. mic Il 22 febbraio 2012 21:55, Terry Blanton ha scritto: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Jones Beene wrote: >> Or - a few random thoughts on how to turn your most prized possession into a >> brick... >> >> http://theunderstatement.com/post/18030062041/its-a-brick-tesla-motors-devas >> tating-design > > The problem could be easily solved with a hard battery disconnect to > avoid the car's inherent inactive load from draining the battery. It > could deplete still; but, over a much longer time . . . months as > opposed to weeks. > > I presume the OS for the vehicle is in non-volatile memory. > > T >
RE: [Vo]:The Brick
From: Terry http://theunderstatement.com/post/18030062041/its-a-brick-tesla-motors-devas tating-design > The problem could be easily solved with a hard battery disconnect to avoid the car's inherent inactive load from draining the battery. It could deplete still; but, over a much longer time . . . months as opposed to weeks. Or given the exorbitant cost of the battery replacement, a tiny Wankel genset would be an elegant solution ... the 150 cc is surprisingly tiny and powerful. http://www.freedom-motors.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9 6&Itemid=78 http://green.autoblog.com/gallery/fev-wankel-range-extender/#photo-1509601 <>
Re: [Vo]:The Brick
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > Or - a few random thoughts on how to turn your most prized possession into a > brick... > > http://theunderstatement.com/post/18030062041/its-a-brick-tesla-motors-devas > tating-design The problem could be easily solved with a hard battery disconnect to avoid the car's inherent inactive load from draining the battery. It could deplete still; but, over a much longer time . . . months as opposed to weeks. I presume the OS for the vehicle is in non-volatile memory. T
RE: [Vo]:The Brick
One comment which I was hoping to elicit from the Free Energy Futurists of Vortex, re: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2012/0034528.html ... is this: since the prime claim of this patent seems to involve a nanopowder version of "protonated titanate" - aren't they really talking about an LENR battery? Maybe I am reading too much into it. If not, the assignee may have found a niche that beats the heck out of recapping. We know that hydrogen isotopes are active in titanium nanopowder going back to Otto Reifenschweiler (reduced radioactivity of tritium in titanium nano particles). And a lot of people did research in the 1990s (notably Dash et al) on deuterium loaded titanium electrolysis. So there is adequate precedent for the positive effect of titanium confinement on the two heavier isotopes of hydrogen. But as far as I can tell from scanning the LENR-CANR archives, no one has published positive results on protium loading of titanium oxides at all. And EEStor, "back in the day" did not employ hydrogen loading either, AFAIK. Therefore, it appears possible that despite the similarity to other work in two different fields, Mark Wendman may have found a fabulous niche for this - and adequately protected it. Obviously no one would never be so foolish as to claim OU from a battery configuration, but extraordinary performance might nevertheless be related to the ability of Cavity QED to operate on protons in a way that gave stunning performance. (in my dreams and Roarty's as well) Bottom line. Will a "bettery" be forthcoming this time around, will it salvage the electric car, or will this new twist on titanate instead drag-on interminably like the EEStor fiasco? Jones _ Or - a few random thoughts on how to turn your most prized possession into a brick... http://theunderstatement.com/post/18030062041/its-a-brick-tesla-motors-devas tating-design So sad. Many of us had highest hopes for Tesla being the continuation of what can now be called the "Jobs Karma"... following the miracle at Cupertino and prior string of successes in that area: Intel, AMD, Google, HP, you know the litany of the NBT (next big thing) ... and Tesla Motors was to be a major part of the new-energy version of the 'next big thing' - (which always seems to fins a nexus in the SF Bay area, for whatever reason). Maybe Tesla can pull it off eventually, but it is looking grim to many skeptics, with Fisker ready to bit the bullet, and they will likely take A123 with them. After all, Colma is the next stop up the road from silicon valley (local joke). One of the main reasons that Tesla looked to be in the driver's seat, so to speak, a few ago was that EEStor - which is/was almost completely unrelated to them (except for roots in Silicon Valley) looked like it would be the salvation of many Eco-optimist's green dreams. EEStor have tanked, technically, but a legacy lives on, and it is not with Zenn (which is also gasping for air). In the most recent http://bariumtitanate.blogspot.com/ there is a hint of salvation. Note the patent from Mark A Wendman (Freemont, CA, US) Application Number: 13/068832. Now for the 'connect the dots' segment of today's broadcast. Although Tesla motors is headquartered is in Palo Alto, their plant is in ... ta da ... Freemont, CA, US. Coincidence or no? Some of the insider info - and a picture of Mark Wendman appears here: http://bariumtitanate.blogspot.com/2010/08/vinod-khosla-only-interested-in-s hares.html ... but it is all a bit dated. Anyway - the dream of the 'next big thing' in energy lives on, even if Rossi and DGT should falter, and it could involve both the so-called "Bettery" which is the electrical storage device that costs about 2/3 less than the present best solution (LiFePo) for the same capacity and half the weight, and ... an onboard recharging capability which does not involve fossil fuel. This could and should involve LENR, or else it could have even involved something from a world away (like what was supposed to have emerged from South Africa recently) but since that will not likely happen, who will be the next contender ? (insert Marlon's famous line from 'On the Waterfront' with Rossi's accent) Stay tuned... Jones <>
[Vo]:The Brick
Or - a few random thoughts on how to turn your most prized possession into a brick... http://theunderstatement.com/post/18030062041/its-a-brick-tesla-motors-devas tating-design So sad. Many of us had highest hopes for Tesla being the continuation of what can now be called the "Jobs Karma"... following the miracle at Cupertino and prior string of successes in that area: Intel, AMD, Google, HP, you know the litany of the NBT (next big thing) ... and Tesla Motors was to be a major part of the new-energy version of the 'next big thing' - (which always seems to fins a nexus in the SF Bay area, for whatever reason). Maybe Tesla can pull it off eventually, but it is looking grim to many skeptics, with Fisker ready to bit the bullet, and they will likely take A123 with them. After all, Colma is the next stop up the road from silicon valley (local joke). One of the main reasons that Tesla looked to be in the driver's seat, so to speak, a few ago was that EEStor - which is/was almost completely unrelated to them (except for roots in Silicon Valley) looked like it would be the salvation of many Eco-optimist's green dreams. EEStor have tanked, technically, but a legacy lives on, and it is not with Zenn (which is also gasping for air). In the most recent http://bariumtitanate.blogspot.com/ there is a hint of salvation. Note the patent from Mark A Wendman (Freemont, CA, US) Application Number: 13/068832. Now for the 'connect the dots' segment of today's broadcast. Although Tesla motors is headquartered is in Palo Alto, their plant is in ... ta da ... Freemont, CA, US. Coincidence or no? Some of the insider info - and a picture of Mark Wendman appears here: http://bariumtitanate.blogspot.com/2010/08/vinod-khosla-only-interested-in-s hares.html ... but it is all a bit dated. Anyway - the dream of the 'next big thing' in energy lives on, even if Rossi and DGT should falter, and it could involve both the so-called "Bettery" which is the electrical storage device that costs about 2/3 less than the present best solution (LiFePo) for the same capacity and half the weight, and ... an onboard recharging capability which does not involve fossil fuel. This could and should involve LENR, or else it could have even involved something from a world away (like what was supposed to have emerged from South Africa recently) but since that will not likely happen, who will be the next contender ? (insert Marlon's famous line from 'On the Waterfront' with Rossi's accent) Stay tuned... Jones <>