Re: [Vo]:Your Oct 28 Predictions
I make an alternative prediction: Rating 25 - 50. Lets assume the input power is measured and confirmed by the electrical company and it cannot been doubted. 1 MW of energy is enough to vaporize 1.345 m^3 of water (0°C) per hour. So the vaporized water is easy to measure and it is easy to calculate the COP. So far I have seen the output pipes, it is not possible to generate 1 MW of steam, because this would be 2287 m^3 of steam per hour or 0.63 m^3 per second. So less steam will be generated and less ecats will be used and less power consumed than initially planned. At the end it will be unclear if all water was vaporized or if some of the water was stored in the unused ecats because the amount of generated steam was not measured. But the visible amounts of steam will be megamoster big and very impressive. ;-) - Original Nachricht Von: ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.com An: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 27.10.2011 17:44 Betreff: [Vo]:Your Oct 28 Predictions Please feel free to write your prediction about the Oct 28 1MW Rossi test. ** Please include a 0 to 100 prediction ** 0 is a scam is exposed, 25 is an unexposed scam, below 50 is failure, and 100 is commercially viable no doubt LENR power.
[Vo]:Your Oct 28 Predictions
Please feel free to write your prediction about the Oct 28 1MW Rossi test. ** Please include a 0 to 100 prediction ** 0 is a scam is exposed, 25 is an unexposed scam, below 50 is failure, and 100 is commercially viable no doubt LENR power. Here is my prediction, mostly taken from comments on Rossi's blog. He starts a group of 6 reactors and waits until they are ready for self-sustaining mode, probably 3 reactors per side. Each reactor group will start quickly, perhaps less than 15 minutes, as the system will not be ice cold. Each successive group of reactors will be kept running with minimum power input as a new group starts. The steam will be condensed in dissipaters and recycled to the plant. Safety mechanisms will be in place to prevent an explosion and everyone will be kept at a safe distance. The 1MW plant will create 1.2MW+ power with less than 2MW sustained input for over 8 hours. Rossi may decide to keep the plant running indefinitely. (At one time he claimed for 2 months.) Rossi claims he has made much more progress than what has been seen in public demonstrations. This is the first big unveiling. My prediction is 90 -- major success but with some details remaining unknown or unverified. - Brad p.s. I've been collecting information from people interested in replicating the e-cat technology. Please email me or reply if you know others attempting replication.
Re: [Vo]:Your Oct 28 Predictions
Well, I will bet 25! 2011/10/27 ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.com Please feel free to write your prediction about the Oct 28 1MW Rossi test. ** Please include a 0 to 100 prediction ** 0 is a scam is exposed, 25 is an unexposed scam, below 50 is failure, and 100 is commercially viable no doubt LENR power. Here is my prediction, mostly taken from comments on Rossi's blog. He starts a group of 6 reactors and waits until they are ready for self-sustaining mode, probably 3 reactors per side. Each reactor group will start quickly, perhaps less than 15 minutes, as the system will not be ice cold. Each successive group of reactors will be kept running with minimum power input as a new group starts. The steam will be condensed in dissipaters and recycled to the plant. Safety mechanisms will be in place to prevent an explosion and everyone will be kept at a safe distance. The 1MW plant will create 1.2MW+ power with less than 2MW sustained input for over 8 hours. Rossi may decide to keep the plant running indefinitely. (At one time he claimed for 2 months.) Rossi claims he has made much more progress than what has been seen in public demonstrations. This is the first big unveiling. My prediction is 90 -- major success but with some details remaining unknown or unverified. - Brad p.s. I've been collecting information from people interested in replicating the e-cat technology. Please email me or reply if you know others attempting replication.
Re: [Vo]:Your Oct 28 Predictions
Am 27.10.2011 17:44, schrieb ecat builder: Please feel free to write your prediction about the Oct 28 1MW Rossi test. ** Please include a 0 to 100 prediction ** 0 is a scam is exposed, 25 is an unexposed scam, below 50 is failure, and 100 is commercially viable no doubt LENR power. 25 or 50. The plant will fail or blow up by hydrogen at saturday night/sunday morning, when nobody is there. Or it will vanish with unknown destination. Possibly a helicopter comes and takes it away to heaven and it vanishes in the clouds. Peter ;-)
Re: [Vo]:Your Oct 28 Predictions
A huge nuclear explosion with a lot of tritium and cobalt 59 fall out would make me happy! At least it would show to all mankind that LENR is a true phenomenon. 2011/10/27 Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de Am 27.10.2011 17:44, schrieb ecat builder: Please feel free to write your prediction about the Oct 28 1MW Rossi test. ** Please include a 0 to 100 prediction ** 0 is a scam is exposed, 25 is an unexposed scam, below 50 is failure, and 100 is commercially viable no doubt LENR power. 25 or 50. The plant will fail or blow up by hydrogen at saturday night/sunday morning, when nobody is there. Or it will vanish with unknown destination. Possibly a helicopter comes and takes it away to heaven and it vanishes in the clouds. Peter ;-)
Re: [Vo]:Your Oct 28 Predictions
Please feel free to write your prediction about the Oct 28 1MW Rossi test. ** Please include a 0 to 100 prediction ** 0 is a scam is exposed, 25 is an unexposed scam, below 50 is failure, and 100 is commercially viable no doubt LENR power. I'll go with the prediction of 0 as stated on the ecatnews.com forum: It is October 28 and Rossi stands before the video cameras and a small crowd of guests. Beside him is one of the ecats from the shipping container behind him. He looks into the camera and says: “Lissen a me: dissa whole ecata stuff is justa kidding you. Ifa you wanna heata your house, you buy the oil! justa likea you always do!” “Ima worka for Big Oil alla the time! Here isa your stupido ecat!” And he picks up the ecat and crushes it into a ball – it is made of aluminium foil! “Now you getta offa my lawn!” And he throws the crushed ecat at the guests, and starts crushing one after the other, throwing them and yelling incoherently.
Re: [Vo]:Your Oct 28 Predictions
33.33 - some excess heat, not controllable, cannot be maintained for long. insufficient steam, far from a Energy Source, inexistent Customer, technical problems, a few dead E-cats. I hope NO explosion, NO leaks, No blackout in the area. Romanian expression a bit improved describing the event Jumping like a lion, falling like a brick! On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Vorl Bek vorl@antichef.com wrote: Please feel free to write your prediction about the Oct 28 1MW Rossi test. ** Please include a 0 to 100 prediction ** 0 is a scam is exposed, 25 is an unexposed scam, below 50 is failure, and 100 is commercially viable no doubt LENR power. I'll go with the prediction of 0 as stated on the ecatnews.com forum: It is October 28 and Rossi stands before the video cameras and a small crowd of guests. Beside him is one of the ecats from the shipping container behind him. He looks into the camera and says: “Lissen a me: dissa whole ecata stuff is justa kidding you. Ifa you wanna heata your house, you buy the oil! justa likea you always do!” “Ima worka for Big Oil alla the time! Here isa your stupido ecat!” And he picks up the ecat and crushes it into a ball – it is made of aluminium foil! “Now you getta offa my lawn!” And he throws the crushed ecat at the guests, and starts crushing one after the other, throwing them and yelling incoherently. -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:Your Oct 28 Predictions
50: High input for the run. The run will be too short. There will be too many unresolved variables. Same as always... The easiest thing for me to believe is that he DOES have a working Ni-H cold fusion method, but nothing will be proven until the device gets into the hands of individual scientists, skilled in the art. Only then will we know. Craig
Re: [Vo]:Your Oct 28 Predictions
I predict that the test will perform as expected. The power output will be 6 + times the power input and we will all celebrate. The product will need to be cleaned up in order to be produced properly. The system being tested is still a prototype and Mr. Rossi is constantly improving the ECAT as he proceeds. Future generations will have much larger power gain unless the energy produced by the reaction has a bad mix of output types. In this case the term bad mix refers to the ratio of normal conductive heat compared to that which is transmitted in the form of radiation. A good design would separate these two energies with an insulation that passes radiation but restricts conducted heat. I would give it a 90 by your scale. My only reservation is that this is a prototype and needs to be prepared for production. This is just the beginning of a revolution in energy production. It is coming just in time as fossil fuels are getting much too rare and expensive as well as damaging to the environment. I just hope we will figue out how to phase LENR into our lives without too much disruption. Dave
Re: [Vo]:Your Oct 28 Predictions
ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote: The 1MW plant will create 1.2MW+ power with less than 2MW sustained input for over 8 hours. Do you mean less than 2 kW input? It is not difficult to produce 1.2 MW with 2 MW of input power. I would not dare make such detailed predictions for Rossi. It could be anything from a last-minute cancellation to a great success to an explosion. The only thing I predict is that the instrumentation will not be adequate. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Your Oct 28 Predictions
Cold Fusion with the help of Profesor George Miley has reached a critical mass. Therefore I give...Cold Fusion Technology including Rossi a 100 since it is merely a matter of time- and I am willing to wait. Ciao, Ron Kita Doylestown PA On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:44 AM, ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.comwrote: Please feel free to write your prediction about the Oct 28 1MW Rossi test. ** Please include a 0 to 100 prediction ** 0 is a scam is exposed, 25 is an unexposed scam, below 50 is failure, and 100 is commercially viable no doubt LENR power. Here is my prediction, mostly taken from comments on Rossi's blog. He starts a group of 6 reactors and waits until they are ready for self-sustaining mode, probably 3 reactors per side. Each reactor group will start quickly, perhaps less than 15 minutes, as the system will not be ice cold. Each successive group of reactors will be kept running with minimum power input as a new group starts. The steam will be condensed in dissipaters and recycled to the plant. Safety mechanisms will be in place to prevent an explosion and everyone will be kept at a safe distance. The 1MW plant will create 1.2MW+ power with less than 2MW sustained input for over 8 hours. Rossi may decide to keep the plant running indefinitely. (At one time he claimed for 2 months.) Rossi claims he has made much more progress than what has been seen in public demonstrations. This is the first big unveiling. My prediction is 90 -- major success but with some details remaining unknown or unverified. - Brad p.s. I've been collecting information from people interested in replicating the e-cat technology. Please email me or reply if you know others attempting replication.
