Re: Bottomless well

2005-02-16 Thread Baronvolsung
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What hemisphere, exactly? If that include South America (Venezuela) 
it is probably true. There is also a lot of oil in Canada and 
Alaska. Of course it would cost a fortune to extract it. If he means 
oil at $500 per barrel,

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Re: Bottomless well

2005-02-15 Thread thomas malloy
thomas malloy wrote:

and Jed Rothwell responded;
Michael Medved, michaelmedved.com interviewed Peter Huber author of 
The Bottomless Well.

What hemisphere, exactly? If that include South America (Venezuela) 
it is probably true. There is also a lot of oil in Canada and 
Alaska. Of course it would cost a fortune to extract it. If he means 
oil at $500 per barrel,
He said $20 per barrel, this compares with $5 per barrel for Saudi 
oil. Huber finds it unfortunate that we are continuing to fund the 
middle east, but that's economics.

These prices do not include the cost of war for oil, ill-health and 
early deaths from pollution,
You can argue that the flow of petro dollars fueling Wahabi 
fundamentalist violence is a classic example of unintended 
consequences, or stupidity, or a conspiracy.

Unfortunately, people are likely to use coal instead, which is even 
worse by every measure.
Huber agrees with you on that.
If Huber is saying there is plenty of oil lying around at today's 
costs in the US, Canada and Mexico, he should tell you oil companies 
about it. They are paying a fortune to
He's not saying that, his thesis is that there is plenty of oil we're 
just going to have to pay more to get it.

- Jed



Bottomless well

2005-02-14 Thread thomas malloy

Michael Medved, michaelmedved.com interviewed Peter Huber author of 
The Bottomless Well. Huber poopooed Hupert's Peak thesis. According 
to him, there are enough petroleum resources in this hemisphere to 
last the entire world for a century. Then there is our coal reserves. 
He ignored my question about the collapse of the dollar. Further 
information on the book is on Medved's website.



Re: Bottomless well

2005-02-14 Thread Steven Krivit
what facts did he cite?
At 03:38 PM 2/14/2005 -0600, you wrote:

Michael Medved, michaelmedved.com interviewed Peter Huber author of The 
Bottomless Well. Huber poopooed Hupert's Peak thesis. According to him, 
there are enough petroleum resources in this hemisphere to last the entire 
world for a century. Then there is our coal reserves. He ignored my 
question about the collapse of the dollar. Further information on the book 
is on Medved's website.



Re: Bottomless well

2005-02-14 Thread Jed Rothwell


thomas malloy wrote:
Michael Medved,
michaelmedved.com interviewed Peter Huber author of The Bottomless Well.
Huber poopooed Hupert's Peak thesis. According to him, there are enough
petroleum resources in this hemisphere to last the entire world for a
century.
What hemisphere, exactly? If that include South America (Venezuela) it is
probably true. There is also a lot of oil in Canada and Alaska. Of course
it would cost a fortune to extract it. If he means oil at $500 per
barrel, I am sure there is enough to last a century. At $2,000 per barrel
it will last forever, because no one can afford to burn it.
These prices do not include the cost of war for oil, ill-health and early
deaths from pollution, accidents in which gasoline powered vehicles
explode, and other add-on costs. If you include this sort of thing, oil
already costs roughly ~$200 per barrel, I think. If you include the cost
of worst-case global warming I suppose each barrel will eventually cost
us something like ~1,000 lives or maybe $20 million. From that point of
view, the total remaining supply is the least of our problems. In a
sense, it would be a blessing if we ran out quickly and we were forced to
invent replacement sources. Unfortunately, people are likely to use coal
instead, which is even worse by every measure.
If Huber is saying there is plenty of oil lying around at today's costs
in the US, Canada and Mexico, he should tell you oil companies about it.
They are paying a fortune to get oil from the North Sea, Russia, the
Middle East and other places. They would be delighted to find it closer
to the U.S., which is the world's largest market. I doubt he knows more
than the oil company experts do.
- Jed