Re: Joel Barker

2005-09-15 Thread Grimer
At 05:05 pm 14/09/2005 -0400, you wrote:
Google Alerts tells me that someone named Joe Barker has been promoting 
cold fusion power -- presumably our CF, not the programming language, and 
that he made statements about it at the recent SIMposium 2005 program in 
Boston. I have never heard of Barker, or the SIMposium (Boston I know 
about), but anyway, I looked him up and sent him a friendly message.

See:

http://searchcio.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid19_gci1124647,00.html

http://www.joelbarker.com/index.php

- Jed


Well, he's certainly got the right name for the job.   8^)

   ==
   Barker

   2. An employee who stands before the entrance to a show, 
  as at a carnival, and solicits customers with a loud 
  sales spiel.
   ==



Joel Barker

2005-09-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Google Alerts tells me that someone named Joe Barker has been promoting 
cold fusion power -- presumably our CF, not the programming language, and 
that he made statements about it at the recent SIMposium 2005 program in 
Boston. I have never heard of Barker, or the SIMposium (Boston I know 
about), but anyway, I looked him up and sent him a friendly message.


See:

http://searchcio.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid19_gci1124647,00.html

http://www.joelbarker.com/index.php

- Jed




Re: Joel Barker

2005-09-14 Thread Steven Krivit

Oh really?
I smell something.

Please let me know if/what you get back.

s

At 02:05 PM 9/14/2005, you wrote:
Google Alerts tells me that someone named Joe Barker has been promoting 
cold fusion power -- presumably our CF, not the programming language, and 
that he made statements about it at the recent SIMposium 2005 program in 
Boston. I have never heard of Barker, or the SIMposium (Boston I know 
about), but anyway, I looked him up and sent him a friendly message.


See:

http://searchcio.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid19_gci1124647,00.html

http://www.joelbarker.com/index.php

- Jed






Re: Joel Barker

2005-09-14 Thread RC Macaulay



Joel Barker is a motivational speaker that has both the ability to capture 
the attention of an audience and provoke a response to the subliminal dynamic 
nudge that lurks withinevery creative person.

His mention of CF should be no surprise. The promise held forth by the 
magnitude of the uses for cold forms of new energy has a magnetic quality 
transcendingwhat is possible.

There is no Camelot.. but if there were??? mention the concept to 
a fertile mind and who can stop a dream.

Joel Barker has no difficulty accepting cold fusion because he is a " 
futurist" and " visionary".A "dream maker".
One should recognize a kindred spirit .

Richard


Re: Joel Barker

2005-09-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
RC Macaulay writes:

 Joel Barker has no difficulty accepting cold fusion because he is a  
 futurist and  visionary. A dream maker.
 One should recognize a kindred spirit .

Well, I hope he really is a futurist and not a blowhard. As I see it, if he 
responds, that makes him a kindred spirit, but if he does not, he is no 
futurist in my book. At this point, LENR-CANR is the gold standard for CF 
information. Anyone seriously interested in the subject will read it. Not 
because of me, but because hundreds of authors have contributed papers. We have 
over 400 papers on file. It is like having a shelf full of conference 
proceedings available in an instant anywhere on earth. (The Internet is 
astounding, isn't it? We are the last generation to appreciate it, and not take 
it for granted.) Perhaps if we had had that back in 1990, the debate would not 
have gone astray.

I am now so confident CF is real, I regard it as a litmus test. How can you 
tell a real scientist from a dodo with a PhD? Show him the experimental data. 
Show him a couple dozen good papers. If he agrees CF is real he is a sheep and 
if he doesn't he's a goat.

- Jed






Re: Joel Barker

2005-09-14 Thread John Coviello
- Original Message - 
From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 5:05 PM
Subject: Joel Barker


Google Alerts tells me that someone named Joe Barker has been promoting 
cold fusion power -- presumably our CF, not the programming language, and 
that he made statements about it at the recent SIMposium 2005 program in 
Boston. I have never heard of Barker, or the SIMposium (Boston I know 
about), but anyway, I looked him up and sent him a friendly message.


It looks like Joe Barker is just using cold fusion (the energy technology) 
in the abstract during his presentation.  He holds it out there as an 
example of a technology that could be a cure-all for future problems.  He's 
certainly not promoting cold fusion or talking about the science behind it. 
It is interesting that he uses cold fusion as an example of a technology 
that could have a major impact on society to solve problems.  A good 
indication of how people perceive cold fusion.  It is funny how cold fusion 
pops up in the oddest places.  It's definitely part of our culture in an 
obscure way. 



Re: Joel Barker

2005-09-14 Thread Steven Krivit
Now I looked at the site which gives me a different impression. I had 
thought you meant he was promoting it commercially, or at least promoting 
it. I retract my earlier comment. I think he's just a futurist, like the 
rest of us, open to new ideas, and helping us get to tomorrow. Or helping 
us see to it that there is a tomorrow.


s

At 02:05 PM 9/14/2005, you wrote:
Google Alerts tells me that someone named Joe Barker has been promoting 
cold fusion power -- presumably our CF, not the programming language, and 
that he made statements about it at the recent SIMposium 2005 program in 
Boston. I have never heard of Barker, or the SIMposium (Boston I know 
about), but anyway, I looked him up and sent him a friendly message.


See:

http://searchcio.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid19_gci1124647,00.html

http://www.joelbarker.com/index.php

- Jed