Re: More military might-have-beens . . . and nightmare scenarios

2005-03-06 Thread Standing Bear
On Friday 04 March 2005 17:07, Jed Rothwell wrote:
oth sides had had them, it would have
 been a bloody trench war stalemate like World War I -- as indeed it became
 by the time Gatling guns were deployed in 1864 at Petersburg.)

 It is not out of the question that someone might develop cold fusion enough
 to produce something like the dreadful remote control mini weapons and
 crows I described in the book, in Chapter 11. You would not have to
 perfect a megawatt-scale cold fusion reactors to produce them; they would
 require only 10 or 20 Watts mechanical. Something with the power of a
 remote-control model airplane or helicopter would do the job. They would be
 very cheap to manufacture. I did not go into detail, but consider an
 organization such as Al Qaeda decided to make some. Al Qaeda has tons of
 money. (The CIA says that 95% of men under 40 in Saudi Arabia approve of Al
 Qaeda and consider Bin Laden a national hero, so I am sure they have
 unlimited funds at their disposal.) If the technology were available, it
 could easily afford 50,000 remote-control robot crows. They would be
 similar to model airplanes and would cost perhaps $300 each in quantity, or
 $15 million total. In the book I described how such devices might be used
 to attack a military base and go around assassinating people wearing
 uniforms. It does not take much imagination to think of what else they
 might do, in the hands of people who have no qualms about committing
 cold-blooded mass murder. Suppose, for example, you had 50,000 crows
 available, and a few hundred people hiding in the U.S. to control them. On
 day one you randomly select and kill a 16 people in cities and towns across
 the country. The next day you kill 32. Then 64, 128 . . . then you go on
 the radio and announced that the United States must immediately withdraw
 all troops from the Middle East and the price of oil will be $100 starting
 now, or the killing will escalate. Of course the US government would
 defiantly refuse at first. But imagine how things would be when the numbers
 reached 2,048 in a single day? This would be after 4,080 deaths, and you
 would still have a stock of 46,000 robots remaining. The country would be
 in an absolute uproar, with chaos everywhere. Europe and Japan would also
 be in hysterics. People everywhere would stay indoors all day long; food
 would rot in the stores; patients would die in hospitals, women in labor
 would be stranded, and people would soon starve. There would be riots, and
 the police and the military would be overwhelmed. Think of what happened in
 Washington, DC a few years ago when a pair of snipers began shooting people
 at random. Multiply that by 1024, then 2048 . . . I think a few days later
 the U.S. would -- in effect -- negotiate a surrender.

How quickly we forget the past!
  There have been times when we had such casualties and lived through it.
In Britain in WWII, the Londoners had similar casualties and pressed on with
their lives.  We would as well.  Were we to be weak, like Cambodians, we
well might live like rabbits.  If so, we would die like rats, just like the 
Cambodians meekly went to the slaughter under the AngKha Loeu in the
1970's   That slaughter was so bad that a thoroughly sickened and disgusted
Viet-Namese government, albiet Communist, put an end to it in the name
of humanity.  This selfless act was unappreciated and soon forgotten by forces
in the rest of the a world that wanted to follow Chinese lead and 
'rehabilitate' Saloth Sar (AKA Pol Pot).  It cost many Viet-Namese lives to 
end the reign of terror of Pot's murderous regime.  I believe that we would 
not go the way of the devided and apathetic Cambodians.  Were we to be
apathetic, however, where would be the rioters that would 'overwhelm the
military'?  There are courageous people everywhere in this country.  Look 
at the ones in the hi-jacked airplane headed for the White House on 11Sep01
that attacked the hijackers with the yell of 'lets roll', and stopped yet 
another catastrophe at the brutal cost of their own lives.  As long as we 
have people like that living here, there will be no panic like ruled Cambodia
in 1975!

Standing Bear



Re: More military might-have-beens . . . and nightmare scenarios

2005-03-06 Thread Grimer

  ...
 There are courageous people everywhere in this country.  Look 
 at the ones in the hi-jacked airplane headed for the White House on 11Sep01
 that attacked the hijackers with the yell of 'lets roll', and stopped yet 
 another catastrophe at the brutal cost of their own lives...  

  --   
  maiorem hac dilectionem nemo habet ut 
  animam suam quis ponat pro amicis suis 
  --



Re: More military might-have-beens . . .

2005-03-04 Thread Grimer
At 05:48 pm 04-03-05 -0500, Jed wrote:
I wrote:

(The CIA says that 95% of men under 40 in Saudi Arabia approve of Al Qaeda 
and consider Bin Laden a national hero, so I am sure they have unlimited 
funds at their disposal.)

Correction: the government of Saudi Arabia says that, based on public 
opinion polls. Source: Imperial Hubris (Brassey's, Inc., 2004).

The point is, not only does Al Qaeda have money, they have a huge reservoir 
of technical skill. There are probably hundreds of thousands of qualified 
but unemployed engineers and other university trained people, such as the 
9/11 hijackers. It is a myth that modern terrorists are disenfranchised 
poor people, or that they are technically ignorant. The Japanese Aum sect 
attracted some of the most talented biochemists and engineers in Japan. 
They built a state-of-the-art sarin production facility. This was built 
right out in the open in Japan -- a country where government surveillance 
is intense, and the authorities have enormous leeway and detailed 
information on everyone. (In Japan, you have to register all members of 
your household  and all domestic pets with the local police. If you forget 
to vaccinate your pooch a friendly policeman will come around to remind 
you. You also have to register all television sets and radios, and pay a 
tax on them. Students used to be adept at hiding television antennas.) It 
takes no great stretch of imagination to envision a  5-year secret project 
involving thousands of highly qualified people in Saudi Arabia (or some 
other state), in which experts make important advances in cold fusion and 
then fabricate 50,000 crude small motors for handheld devices. It would be 
*far* easier than hiding a conventional nuclear weapons program.

Grimer, my man! Is that scary enough?


ABSOLUTELY! That's fantastic stuff Jed. Not only blood curdling but very 
interesting with it. If you can write like that and get it syndicated 
you can forget about the CoFu Bomb game. If I were from the bible belt 
and I read that in my morning paper under the headline, WAKE UP AMERICA 
I would be reaching for my M16 with one hand and with the other I'd be 
writing a letter to my congressman demanding that he did something about 
the COLD FUSION GAP if he wanted to get re-elected. 

And if I were from Montana (my son, Greg, once stayed there with a family. 
He said they were armed to the back teeth) I would send down a detachment 
of my militia to make sure you had sufficient protection from any Skull 
and Bones backlash.

What you have to remember is, it doesn't really matter a damn what the 
atoms say. It's all about bits - all about perceptual bits. To quote from 
the book I was reading when I checked my mail just now.

--
And they were not just cold. Hedgies struck me as incredibly 
detached as well. Apart from the real world. On another planet, 
almost. Actually, a lot of people on Wall Street are this way. 
They reside in a different layer from the rest of the world. I 
suppose it is how the financial system is set up; they can buy 
and sell companies all day without really caring what they 
actually do.
--

Of course they can. They aren't buying companies qua atoms. The are buying 
companies qua bits, i.e. perceptions. It is not for nothing that often the 
most valuable asset of a company is not its physical assets such as 
buildings, machines, etc., but intangibles, like trade marks, good will, etc. 
That's what my intellectually challenged directors at Building Research 
failed to recognise. Their value was the reputation, the honesty, the 
competence of the work. That was what they should have been selling. Selling, 
that is until the last honest researcher had drifted away at last, and turned 
out the lights.

That's why when CoCo Cola sold home counties tap water without having 
watched all episodes of *Only Fools and Horses*... 
-
http://www.trotters-independent-traders.co.uk/episodes/mother_natures_son.htm

   Del Boy's latest scheme is to bottle tap water 
and sell it as 'Peckham Spring' water. It's a 
great success thanks to Rodney's mate Myles. 
--
it was a complete public relations disaster. The US firm very sensibly 
strangled the whole thing at birth before it impacted on their other 
lucrative sales of sugar water.

There's of lot of our countrymen who moan about the loss of manufacturing
industry. With your extensive historical knowledge I'm sure you recognise 
that exactly the same moaning went on in England in relation to agriculture
as the industrial revolution took hold. The west's future is in 'bits' and the 
sooner modern Luddites wake up to that reality the better. 

And if you're not a lawyer, and your skill is in atoms, not