Re: [Vo]:Re: How Current Loops and Solenoids Curve Space-time

[Roarty, Francis X]

Harry, I can’t speak to your method but I am convinced that you are correct in 
thinking whatever method provides LENR anomalies should work both ways and that 
driving the system in reverse we should be able  to “push” against whatever the 
underlying source of force of the anomaly happens to ultimately be.. if I am 
correct about relativistic/ZPE we will get inertia less drive soon after robust 
LENR is mastered.  I am also  ok with the source being a new form of nuclear 
reaction – at this point I don’t care who is right just want to see a working 
device demonstrated  so the ball will finally get rolling.
Fran

From: H Veeder [mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 2:20 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Re: How Current Loops and Solenoids Curve Space-time

Here is example of resonant system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aaxw4zbULMs
Treat the concealed spring mechanism within each metronome as a model of a 
nucleus. However, instead of the pendulum being driven from previously stored 
energy in the spring, as happens in the video, imagine redesigning the link 
between the pendulum and the spring so that the spring is wound up as the 
pendulum oscillates. The pendulum oscillations would be powered from a force 
pushing the platform back and forth on the cans.

Harry

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Bob Cook 
mailto:frobertc...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Harry--

It may be possible with proper design.  It would seem to take a coherent system 
(entangled QM system) of electrons and various nuclei in which the electronic 
structure could be excited to an elevated energy state which would then be 
brought into resonance with a nucleus or several nucleus which would then 
transition to a metastable state or new nuclei will less stability (greater 
binding energy per nucleon) than the original coherent system of nuclei and 
electrons.  (Einstein's assumed equivalence of the various types of energy 
would apply here.)

Bob Cook


From: H Veeder<mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 10:48 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: RE:[Vo]:How Current Loops and Solenoids Curve Space-time

Could this process work in reverse, so that the energy of the electrons could 
be transferred to the nucleons and stored in the nucleus?

Harry

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Bob Cook wrote:


I have long thought that the magnetic field in a metal aligns the spins of the 
electrons as well as the nucleons and provides a coupling mechanism to match 
resonances and hence allow transfer of nuclear spin  potential energy to the 
phonic energy of electrons.

RE: [Vo]:Re: How Current Loops and Solenoids Curve Space-time

[Roarty, Francis X]

I wonder if said nucleons would then tie together multiple inertial frames and 
if so would the inertia of the macro object be modified? Maybe a grain of truth 
behind claims of gravity modification / levitation myths without the need for 
collider scale superconductors using instead quantum effect of suppression 
geometry on ambient trapped gas inside limestone lattice.
Fran

From: Bob Cook [mailto:frobertc...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 7:33 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Re: How Current Loops and Solenoids Curve Space-time

Harry--

It may be possible with proper design.  It would seem to take a coherent system 
(entangled QM system) of electrons and various nuclei in which the electronic 
structure could be excited to an elevated energy state which would then be 
brought into resonance with a nucleus or several nucleus which would then 
transition to a metastable state or new nuclei will less stability (greater 
binding energy per nucleon) than the original coherent system of nuclei and 
electrons.  (Einstein's assumed equivalence of the various types of energy 
would apply here.)

Bob Cook


From: H Veeder
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 10:48 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: RE:[Vo]:How Current Loops and Solenoids Curve Space-time

Could this process work in reverse, so that the energy of the electrons could 
be transferred to the nucleons and stored in the nucleus?

Harry

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Bob Cook wrote:


I have long thought that the magnetic field in a metal aligns the spins of the 
electrons as well as the nucleons and provides a coupling mechanism to match 
resonances and hence allow transfer of nuclear spin  potential energy to the 
phonic energy of electrons.

Re: [Vo]:Re: How Current Loops and Solenoids Curve Space-time

[H Veeder]

Here is example of resonant system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aaxw4zbULMs

Treat the concealed spring mechanism within each metronome as a model of a
nucleus. However, instead of the pendulum being driven from previously
stored energy in the spring, as happens in the video, imagine redesigning
the link between the pendulum and the spring so that the spring is wound up
as the pendulum oscillates. The pendulum oscillations would be powered from
a force pushing the platform back and forth on the cans.

Harry

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Bob Cook  wrote:

> Harry--
>
> It may be possible with proper design.  It would seem to take a coherent
> system (entangled QM system) of electrons and various nuclei in which the
> electronic structure could be excited to an elevated energy state which
> would then be brought into resonance with a nucleus or several nucleus
> which would then transition to a metastable state or new nuclei will less
> stability (greater binding energy per nucleon) than the original coherent
> system of nuclei and electrons.  (Einstein's assumed equivalence of the
> various types of energy would apply here.)
>
> Bob Cook
>
>
> *From:* H Veeder 
> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 10:48 AM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: RE:[Vo]:How Current Loops and Solenoids Curve Space-time
>
> Could this process work in reverse, so that the energy of the electrons
> could be transferred to the nucleons and stored in the nucleus?
>
> Harry
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Bob Cook wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I have long thought that the magnetic field in a metal aligns the spins
>> of the electrons as well as the nucleons and provides a coupling mechanism
>> to match resonances and hence allow transfer of nuclear spin  potential
>> energy to the phonic energy of electrons.
>>
>>
>