Re: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test
Von: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt.stea...@gmail.com An: Vortex vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 23:41 Donnerstag, 19.April 2012 Betreff: RE: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test Hoyt, You probably know John Walker, the founder of autodesk. He seems to be an interesting person, capable of thinking outside the box. On his website You can find eg his 'Introduction to Probability and Statistics'. See here: http://www.fourmilab.ch/rpkp/experiments/statistics.html He is quite open to topics like reversal of time and psychokinesis. Not that I would endorse that. I just try to keep an open mind, and not refuse that by some definition, whose foundations are equally dubious. These topics have a lot of similarity to LENR wrt acceptance. They do not fit into the dominant narrative. The Princeton-group was eliminated, because the dominant narrative classified them as quacks. see: http://skepdic.com/pear.html A couple of years ago I did a -just for fun- analysis of the outcomes of lottery numbers in German lottery over some 30 years. the numbers are 1..49, Drawings: 1 per week, later 2. So there were some 2000 drawings in total. The numbers should smooth out. Right? Every student of statistics, computing the result of 2000 drawings , should be quite content with the significance. Number of samples, gaussian distribution, ergodicity, etc. The numbers do, in a sense, obey the 'laws', but what astonished me, was that the number '13' was drawn significantly LESS than the expected value. As far as I can remember, it was about 1:1000 chance for any number to be drawn with such a low probability. '13' is not a 'lucky' number in the german context. And if you have 49 numbers, the chance that one of them falls below 1:1000, is not THAT impossible. This is one of the reasons why I do not discard the 'Princeton' findings altogether. Re intercultural comparability: This is difficult, because I have no idea what the mental force is, to reject negative / enforce positive numbers. Its significance is quite different with cultures. those who are quite neutral re ‘13’, and those who have other ‘negative’ There are no data to study this interculturally, eg the Mexican, the US, the Spanish, who all seem to be crazy betters, but onto different targets. So we have NO good database here. Such is the situation. Germans are bean-counters in a sense, which seems -in this case- to have some positive aspect. ;) My conclusion at that time, when I investigated this, was: that there is something worth investigating, but I lacked the time and resources to really go to the bottom of the issue. I have some hope, that the Net could make a difference, to really find out what is going on here. a) Akin to the LENR-field, there are some other fields, which could profit from good-mannered crowd- intelligence, b) or as an opposite: dissident- intelligence, c) Which are in a sort of a fight, where common belief and individual ingenuity battle each other. OK? Just a bold theory. (Just as a sidenote: there is a similarly strange effect, which is the 1/f noise. Mandelbrodt, among others, pondered that, but with no conclusion.1/f noise is somewhat similar to the idea of fractals, but is not mathematical, but physical in its own sense, in that there are mathematical equivalents to that, like the distribution of prime numbers, BUT ‘nature ‘ produces different sorts of 1/f noises, which cannot be mapped onto mathematical equivalents.) anyway, best regards, and sorry for the log post, Guenter -- I've personally witnessed and done influencing dice throws in craps! The dealers in Las Vegas are quite astounded at the results. Most of the bets are hardways with payouts of about 30:1 . Surprisingly the casinos appear to like this as it brings quite large crowds around the tables. http://www.synccreation.com/vegas-adventure -Original Message- From: Guenter Wildgruber [mailto:gwildgru...@ymail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:52 PM ... Radioactive decay is assumed to be pure random. So much that it even is used as THE source of pure randomness, ie,THE ideal random-number generator. I always doubtet that. There are some hints, that our conceptions of randomness, which in the mathematical domain eg are gaussian distributions and ergodicity, do NOT apply to the REAL world. Only to such artificial constructions as throwing dice. Which are, if You think about it, are mental constructions, and as such collapse to tautologies. ...
RE: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test
I don't know John Walker, but I posted his studies on editing the past previously. I didn't know he founded autodesk. There's a famous example supporting the concept of multiple pasts regarding Nelson Mandela. Some people have evidence and believe that he died in prison ( newspaper articles, etc. as I recall) and others say he's still alive ( other articles ). A collison of probable pasts. I think this happens quite often but is ignored. It does create hostilities and war because each side is convinced and can prove that the other side is completely wrong. That's interesting about the lottery. A few years ago I did a year long study for my own satisfaction by buying a ticket every week and choosing the numbers using map dowsing i.e. picking the numbers that a pencil naturally tended to seek on the forms. There was a 1:37 chance of winning something, but over the year I won 1:5! (Not much money, but it proved the point to me ). Another effect was that on some occasions, the winning numbers were shifted up/down/left/right one space on the form. Hoyt Stearns Scottsdale, Arizona US -Original Message- From: Guenter Wildgruber [mailto:gwildgru...@ymail.com] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 11:23 AM To: hoyt.stea...@gmail.com; Vortex Subject: Re: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test -- Von: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt.stea...@gmail.com An: Vortex vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 23:41 Donnerstag, 19.April 2012 Betreff: RE: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test Hoyt, You probably know John Walker, the founder of autodesk. He seems to be an interesting person, capable of thinking outside the box. On his website You can find eg his 'Introduction to Probability and Statistics'. See here: http://www.fourmilab.ch/rpkp/experiments/statistics.html ...
RE: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote: It is also well established that the intent and expectation of the experimenter can influence radioactive decay, so it would be difficult to separate that out from the other possible influences. Since the research community assumes half-lives to be reliable (almost w/status of physics constants e.g. isotope dating,) then shouldn't ANY anomaly raise red flags for investigation? This guy on sci.electronics.design below is building a tiny datalogger box, and if it's open source and easily copied, then double-blind testing wouldn't be difficult. Or do like the PEAR lab, and intentionally look for mental effects by running several loggers at widely spaced locations. Do check out his thread; he posts lots of jpegs of construction. PS They say yearly variation, 33-day variation, and transients before/during solar flares. Here's a nice review: http://pbadupws.nrc.gov/docs/ML1210/ML12101A262.pdf Interesting thread going on in SED newsgroup... How about it? Experiments of the third kind , take 99. http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.design/browse_thread/thread/d 99b2b7ad28787ba# Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design, sci.physics From: Jan Panteltje pantel...@yahoo.com Subject: How about it? Experiments of the third kind , take 99. Would the light intensity from a tritium light be [linear] proportional to the decay of the tritium? And then next year analyze the result (if any)? note, see: http://panteltje.com/pub/da_test_setup_IMG_3382.JPG http://panteltje.com/pub/tritium_light_movie_mvi_3243.avi http://panteltje.com/panteltje/pic/ (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-762-3818unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci
Re: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test
Von: William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 22:12 Donnerstag, 19.April 2012 Betreff: RE: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test William, I think You touched an important point here. I raised my doubts in other contexts earlier on. Radioactive decay is assumed to be pure random. So much that it even is used as THE source of pure randomness, ie,THE ideal random-number generator. I always doubtet that. There are some hints, that our conceptions of randomness, which in the mathematical domain eg are gaussian distributions and ergodicity, do NOT apply to the REAL world. Only to such artificial constructions as throwing dice. Which are, if You think about it, are mental constructions, and as such collapse to tautologies. See eg the the REAL WORLD problem of 1/f noise, black swans not considered. This is a bottomless pit, and disturbs the mathematical 'idealists', who believe that 'reality' is constructed along simple platonian laws. Which quite probably it is not. There seems to be some similarity between random-number-distribution, 1/f noise and several processes of radiactive decay. Mandelbrodt touched that, but I do not think he ever got to the core of the issue. As a mathematician he probably could not. --- Since the research community assumes half-lives to be reliable (almost w/status of physics constants e.g. isotope dating,) then shouldn't ANY anomaly raise red flags for investigation? This guy on sci.electronics.design below is building a tiny datalogger box, and if it's open source and easily copied, then double-blind testing wouldn't be difficult. Or do like the PEAR lab, and intentionally look for mental effects by running several loggers at widely spaced locations. Do check out his thread; he posts lots of jpegs of construction. PS They say yearly variation, 33-day variation, and transients before/during solar flares. Here's a nice review: http://pbadupws.nrc.gov/docs/ML1210/ML12101A262.pdf Interesting thread going on in SED newsgroup... How about it? Experiments of the third kind , take 99. http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.design/browse_thread/thread/d 99b2b7ad28787ba# Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design, sci.physics From: Jan Panteltje pantel...@yahoo.com Subject: How about it? Experiments of the third kind , take 99. Would the light intensity from a tritium light be [linear] proportional to the decay of the tritium? And then next year analyze the result (if any)? note, see: http://panteltje.com/pub/da_test_setup_IMG_3382.JPG http://panteltje.com/pub/tritium_light_movie_mvi_3243.avi http://panteltje.com/panteltje/pic/ (( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))) William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-762-3818 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci
RE: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test
I've personally witnessed and done influencing dice throws in craps! The dealers in Las Vegas are quite astounded at the results. Most of the bets are hardways with payouts of about 30:1 . Surprisingly the casinos appear to like this as it brings quite large crowds around the tables. http://www.synccreation.com/vegas-adventure -Original Message- From: Guenter Wildgruber [mailto:gwildgru...@ymail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:52 PM ... Radioactive decay is assumed to be pure random. So much that it even is used as THE source of pure randomness, ie,THE ideal random-number generator. I always doubtet that. There are some hints, that our conceptions of randomness, which in the mathematical domain eg are gaussian distributions and ergodicity, do NOT apply to the REAL world. Only to such artificial constructions as throwing dice. Which are, if You think about it, are mental constructions, and as such collapse to tautologies. ...
Re: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test
Interesting. Is the variation due to sidereal or calendar day? David On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 1:15 AM, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt.stea...@gmail.com wrote: It is also well established that the intent and expectation of the experimenter can influence radioactive decay, so it would be difficult to separate that out from the other possible influences. Hoyt Stearns Scottsdale, Arizona US -Original Message- From: William Beaty [mailto:bi...@eskimo.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 11:57 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test Interesting thread going on in SED newsgroup...
RE: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test
-Original Message- From: David Jonsson [mailto:davidjonssonswe...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:34 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test Interesting. Is the variation due to sidereal or calendar day? David On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 1:15 AM, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt.stea...@gmail.com wrote: It is also well established that the intent and expectation of the experimenter can influence radioactive decay, so it would be difficult to separate that out from the other possible influences. Hoyt Stearns Scottsdale, Arizona US I don't know; that would be an interesting study if it hasn't already been done. I know Sidereal time has an influence on remote viewing accuracy. Note that even previously recorded decay data can be influenced ( editing the past ! ). http://www.emergentmind.org/PDF_files.htm/timereversed.pdf Some sometimes peripherally related links: http://skewsme.com/blog/2011/05/mind-over-matter/#axzz1sFWsDppL Mind over matter emerges as the most electrifying area of research. It seems that human intention can influence machines even at a distance, when no influence seems possible. Researchers are both enthralled and puzzled by the data, which makes no sense. Studies thus far have examined machines that randomly produce positive or negative electrical pulses, or measure random radioactive decay, or randomly generate numbers. By concentrating, subjects try to influence the machines in one direction or another. After more than 14 million trials, Jahn has found a constant, significant influence of humans on the performance of machines, and the odds of this happening are 1 in 5,000. Other studies have shown that people can influence not only the random generator they are concentrating on, but hidden generators they dont even know about. Complete article: http://skewsme.com/blog/2011/05/mind-over-matter/#ixzz1sFXFcq1l See also: http://facebook.com/SkewsMeScience http://d1002391.mydomainwebhost.com/JOT/Links/Papers/INTENT.pdf 7. Finally, there is considerable evidence that external qi can alter the molecular structure of treated solutions, affect nucleotide polymerization, protein crystallization and enzyme activity, increase the UV absorption of nucleic acids and catalyze chemical reactions, and alter the radioactive decay rate of a radioactive source by 1 to 12% (Sancier, 1996; Lin and Jiang, 1996). These experiments have been replicated from various locations and the effects were demonstrated even when the separation between subject and target measured thousands of miles (US to China). [Note: Gloria Alvino (1996) also described, among other HEF studies, the early work of Dr. Wilhelm Reich, who built an accumulator to concentrate bioenergy and who claimed to increase the nuclear decay rate of a radioisotope by placing it in his accumulator (one has to wonder, however, if the energy, or Qi, was not what was being registered directly by the detector, rather than an accelerated decay rate-LS)]. http://fourmilab.ch/rpkp/update9.html http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_psychoenergetics02.htm http://wholescience.hubpages.com/hub/Is-there-evidence-for-mind-over-matter http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_03_1_radin.pdf http://www.fourmilab.ch/rpkp/stapp.html
RE: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test
It is also well established that the intent and expectation of the experimenter can influence radioactive decay, so it would be difficult to separate that out from the other possible influences. Hoyt Stearns Scottsdale, Arizona US -Original Message- From: William Beaty [mailto:bi...@eskimo.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 11:57 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test Interesting thread going on in SED newsgroup...
