Re: [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy
OK Thanks. I find the geometry and orientation of the magnets appealling. It is reminds me of my all mechanical concept for a self powering machine. The design is based on my philosophy of motion which is inspired by the curling motion of a curling stone on ice. Harry From: John Berry aethe...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, May 14, 2011 3:47:05 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy The plans incase you have not found the other thread: http://www.scene.org/~esa/merlib/romerouk/selfrunning_free_energy_device_muller_motor_generator_romerouk_version1_1.pdf On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote: the designer now says: it was all a fake...someone came to visit...the device has probably been destroyed... http://pesn.com/2011/05/11/9501823_Romeros_Self-Sustaining_Muller_Dynamo_Drama The same old story. Harry From: John Berry aethe...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 8:13:28 PM Subject: [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy A Muller inspired Motor/Generator powering it's self suspended in air... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iNrjKFSLu4
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Lidmotor is romeroUK'ing too: Muller Dynamo--- my kitchen table learning tool.ASFhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mniWYLz8AV4 my Muller Dynamo with all the coils.ASFhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZAIfk_ppoA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZAIfk_ppoAMuller Dynamo with electronic circuit.ASF http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdDFVUfX5jg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdDFVUfX5jgLidmotor is good at replicating various things! Also someone called Piengo is working on a RomeroUK/Muller rebuild: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pHLKPciCGM Would love to see any comments from this list on the Lidmotor builds! :) On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok, I'll wait for the replications. It seems CLaNZer is building one and Skycollection has something similiar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdxMbCU7O8c Harry *From:* John Berry aethe...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Fri, May 13, 2011 7:22:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy He had large offers he turned down, it is pretty transparent that he was scared off. The claim that he faked it does n't agree with the evidence. On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote: the designer now says: it was all a fake...someone came to visit...the device has probably been destroyed... http://pesn.com/2011/05/11/9501823_Romeros_Self-Sustaining_Muller_Dynamo_Drama The same old story. Harry *From:* John Berry aethe...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sun, May 8, 2011 8:13:28 PM *Subject:* [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy A Muller inspired Motor/Generator powering it's self suspended in air... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iNrjKFSLu4
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From: Esa Ruoho * Would love to see any comments from this list on the Lidmotor builds! :) My bet is on skycollection. His handiwork is superb going back many years. However, there is so little theoretical way to harness ZPE with this type of device that a self-runner seems unlikely. Of course, experiment rules. Jones
Re: [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy
Ok, I'll wait for the replications. It seems CLaNZer is building one and Skycollection has something similiar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdxMbCU7O8c Harry From: John Berry aethe...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 7:22:05 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy He had large offers he turned down, it is pretty transparent that he was scared off. The claim that he faked it does n't agree with the evidence. On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote: the designer now says: it was all a fake...someone came to visit...the device has probably been destroyed... http://pesn.com/2011/05/11/9501823_Romeros_Self-Sustaining_Muller_Dynamo_Drama The same old story. Harry From: John Berry aethe...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 8:13:28 PM Subject: [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy A Muller inspired Motor/Generator powering it's self suspended in air... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iNrjKFSLu4
Re: [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy
The plans incase you have not found the other thread: http://www.scene.org/~esa/merlib/romerouk/selfrunning_free_energy_device_muller_motor_generator_romerouk_version1_1.pdf On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote: the designer now says: it was all a fake...someone came to visit...the device has probably been destroyed... http://pesn.com/2011/05/11/9501823_Romeros_Self-Sustaining_Muller_Dynamo_Drama The same old story. Harry *From:* John Berry aethe...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sun, May 8, 2011 8:13:28 PM *Subject:* [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy A Muller inspired Motor/Generator powering it's self suspended in air... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iNrjKFSLu4
Re: [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy
the designer now says: it was all a fake...someone came to visit...the device has probably been destroyed... http://pesn.com/2011/05/11/9501823_Romeros_Self-Sustaining_Muller_Dynamo_Drama The same old story. Harry From: John Berry aethe...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 8:13:28 PM Subject: [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy A Muller inspired Motor/Generator powering it's self suspended in air... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iNrjKFSLu4
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The ROMEROUK.pdf has been updated, you could grab it from selfrunning_free_energy_device_muller_motor_generator_romerouk_version1_1.pdfhttp://www.scene.org/~esa/merlib/romerouk/selfrunning_free_energy_device_muller_motor_generator_romerouk_version1_1.pdf http://www.scene.org/~esa/merlib/romerouk/selfrunning_free_energy_device_muller_motor_generator_romerouk_version1_1.pdffor instance. On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:55 AM, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com wrote: ROMEROUK.pdf On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote: Which PDF is it on EVGRAYTOO/files, please? On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 6:52 AM, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com wrote: Details: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/EVGRAYTOO/files/ (join up to access pdf) http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/EVGRAYTOO/files/ http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.0 http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10705.msg285087#new http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.0 On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:05 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: A Muller inspired Motor/Generator powering it's self suspended in air... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iNrjKFSLu4 What are the details? ...it's history. How much energy does it allegedly generate?
Re: [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy
He had large offers he turned down, it is pretty transparent that he was scared off. The claim that he faked it does n't agree with the evidence. On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote: the designer now says: it was all a fake...someone came to visit...the device has probably been destroyed... http://pesn.com/2011/05/11/9501823_Romeros_Self-Sustaining_Muller_Dynamo_Drama The same old story. Harry *From:* John Berry aethe...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sun, May 8, 2011 8:13:28 PM *Subject:* [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy A Muller inspired Motor/Generator powering it's self suspended in air... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iNrjKFSLu4
Re: [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy
In reply to John Berry's message of Mon, 9 May 2011 12:13:28 +1200: Hi, [snip] A Muller inspired Motor/Generator powering it's self suspended in air... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iNrjKFSLu4 Notice that there is a part of the front that you never get to see? Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy
In other videos you get to see all of it. Nothing can be done to disprove the possibility of fraud to someone committed to being skeptical. (short of wide spread common use) On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 6:21 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to John Berry's message of Mon, 9 May 2011 12:13:28 +1200: Hi, [snip] A Muller inspired Motor/Generator powering it's self suspended in air... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iNrjKFSLu4 Notice that there is a part of the front that you never get to see? Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy
Which PDF is it on EVGRAYTOO/files, please? On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 6:52 AM, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com wrote: Details: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/EVGRAYTOO/files/ (join up to access pdf) http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/EVGRAYTOO/files/ http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.0 http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10705.msg285087#new http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.0 On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:05 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: A Muller inspired Motor/Generator powering it's self suspended in air... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iNrjKFSLu4 What are the details? ...it's history. How much energy does it allegedly generate?
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ROMEROUK.pdf On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote: Which PDF is it on EVGRAYTOO/files, please? On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 6:52 AM, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com wrote: Details: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/EVGRAYTOO/files/ (join up to access pdf) http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/EVGRAYTOO/files/ http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.0 http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10705.msg285087#new http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.0 On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:05 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: A Muller inspired Motor/Generator powering it's self suspended in air... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iNrjKFSLu4 What are the details? ...it's history. How much energy does it allegedly generate?
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BTW, that thing dangling is an Electrolytic cap, not a battery. He has shared most of the construction details and is holding nothing back. On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:13 PM, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com wrote: A Muller inspired Motor/Generator powering it's self suspended in air... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iNrjKFSLu4
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The orientation of the magnets reminds me of Thane Heins' Perepiteia. Harry From: John Berry aethe...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 8:18:41 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy BTW, that thing dangling is an Electrolytic cap, not a battery. He has shared most of the construction details and is holding nothing back. On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:13 PM, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com wrote: A Muller inspired Motor/Generator powering it's self suspended in air...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iNrjKFSLu4
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A Muller inspired Motor/Generator powering it's self suspended in air... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iNrjKFSLu4 What are the details? ...it's history. How much energy does it allegedly generate? Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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10 watts. Ironic that the one thing which can nullify the significance of the Rossi invention is an even more 'impossible' invention which is not only self-powering, which the E-Cat is not, but also with excess electrical power instead of heat. Which is not to say that this is not a repeat of Steorn/Mylow ... are we living in interesting times, or what? -Original Message- From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson How much energy does it allegedly generate?
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Details: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/EVGRAYTOO/files/ (join up to access pdf) http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/EVGRAYTOO/files/ http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.0 http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10705.msg285087#new http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.0 On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:05 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: A Muller inspired Motor/Generator powering it's self suspended in air... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iNrjKFSLu4 What are the details? ...it's history. How much energy does it allegedly generate? Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
