Re: [Vo]:Skeuomorphs ride again!

2014-07-10 Thread a.ashfield

Jed wrote:
The Prius starts to move the moment you take your foot off the brake, 
before you press the gas pedal. There is no need for that, but that is 
how conventional automatic transmissions work, and the car is designed 
to imitate them.


Actually this is a useful function when you are starting on a hill, to 
prevent the car rolling back when you take your foot off the brake 
before you can put it on the accelerator


Re: [Vo]:Skeuomorphs ride again!

2014-07-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote:


 Actually this is a useful function when you are starting on a hill, to
 prevent the car rolling back when you take your foot off the brake before
 you can put it on the accelerator


The transmission would prevent that. It locks it forward. You may be
thinking of it as something like a standard shift with a clutch.

Starting up a steep hill with a clutch can be challenging. I have done it a
zillion times. Then again, I have worn out two clutches in 60,000 miles,
driving very short distances in stop-and-go Atlanta traffic.

- Jed


RE: [Vo]:Skeuomorphs ride again!

2014-07-09 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
Thanks for teaching me a new word.



I sure see a lot of that in architecture:



Steep roofs that could shed snow really well  ( but it doesn't snow here, or 
rain much for that matter).

Shutters that don't close and wouldn't be needed even if they did.

Greek and Roman columns that don't hold up anything.

Wooden beam ends that don't support anything, but look as if they are 
structural.

Shingles -- taking perfectly good roofing material and cutting it up into 
little pieces.

Big masonry chimneys containing nothing but 8 diameter steel tubes inside ( 
and fireplaces with fake logs inside).

Fake dormers.

Lots of other useless protuberances.



It's really hard to find a house without those things.



P.S.  I live next to Frank Lloyd Wright's Taliesen West compound and admire his 
designs.



Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US





From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 1:30 PM





Skeuomorph means an ornament or design on an object copied from a form of 
the object when made from another material or by other techniques, as an 
imitation metal rivet mark found on handles of prehistoric pottery. In my book 
I described this: with ingenuity and extra effort, the limitations of the old 
are imposed on the new








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Re: [Vo]:Skeuomorphs ride again!

2014-07-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt-stea...@cox.net wrote:

Thanks for teaching me a new word.



 I sure see a lot of that in architecture:


That's true! I had forgotten about architecture when I cited automobiles. I
guess I was thinking of high-tech machinery, such as automobiles,
generators, computers and so on.



 Steep roofs that could shed snow really well  ( but it doesn't snow here,
 or rain much for that matter).


I do wish I had a steep roof here in Atlanta. It would shed the pine
needles better. But then again maybe I don't want one, because I could not
safely climb it to get at the ones that are not washed off by the rain.

The new MacMansions have much steeper roofs than the houses made in the
1950s, such as mine.



 Shingles -- taking perfectly good roofing material and cutting it up into
 little pieces.


Actually, there is a good reason for making them the size they are. One
package of shingles is about as heavy as an ordinary worker can lift. (It
is as much as *I* can lift, anyway.) Make them any heavier and you would
need a fork lift to get them on the roof, plus the package might break
through the plywood -- which is not very strong.

What we need is a machine to lift a continuous roll of roofing material to
the level of the roof, and then position it. Sort of like a cherry picker,
or one of these machines they used to pour concrete into tight places. The
machine would lift the material up, and then a human would grab the end of
the roll and pull it into position, and nail it down. You would cut off the
material at the end of the roof.

Actually, what we need are houses build mainly in factories by robots.
Pre-fab houses and components such as bathrooms are more common in Japan
than the U.S. They are kind of soulless but cheap and well made.

Human strength is still the limiting factor in many tasks in construction,
farming and other industries. The civil engineer Samuel Florman pointed
this out in one of his books, describing a mistake he made when he was
starting out. He ordered wooden beams that were twice as big but much
cheaper than the ones they usually purchased to shore up some construction.
The problem was, they were too big for the workers to install.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Skeuomorphs ride again!

2014-07-09 Thread Axil Axil













 Actually, what we need are houses build mainly in factories by robots.
 Pre-fab houses and components such as bathrooms are more common in Japan
 than the U.S. They are kind of soulless but cheap and well made.


 http://phys.org/news/2014-07-kite-bricks-prototype-smarter-approach.html


Here is a brick that can be laid by robot.