Re: [Vo]:Transient superconductivity in palladium hydrides

2019-08-18 Thread Axil Axil
Rossi has said that the SK reactor adheres to his patent that defines the
use of nickel. and aluminum lithium hydride.

He also states in his theory paper in chapter 4, the critical formation of
ultra dense hydrogen as per Holmlid that he includes in his references.

Rossi has gone completely with Holmlid tech.



On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 6:51 PM bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Axil—
>
> My recent comments to Jones, Mark and Brian regarding  the LLENR of Pd
> coherent lattice systems suggests the pertinence of thermodynamic
> parameters of temperature and pressure to coherent systems..
>
>
>
> Direct electricity from an engineered system with a thermo- electric
> connection adjacent to the nano system producing the high  temperature
> would seem to be possible and a reasonable engineered development;
>
>
>
> This may be what Rossi is working on.
>
>
>
> Bob Cook
>
>
>
> __-
>
>
>
>
> --
> *From:* Axil Axil 
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 17, 2019 8:56:41 AM
> *To:* vortex-l 
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Transient superconductivity in palladium hydrides
>
>
> We now know that the compression mechanics that actions hot fusion is not
> happening in the LENR reaction, but experimental date does unequivocally
> show that fusion of elements is occurring. Also the weak force reaction
> that many believe is at the core of the LENR reaction does not fit the
> experimental LENR reaction based evidence that has accumulated over the
> years. We see in the work of Holmlid a new type of nuclear and subnuclear
> reaction that rips matter apart and seems to provide an alternative
> reaction pathway other than fusion through compression and the weak force.
>
>
>
> The coming thing in condensed matter physics and quantum engineering is
> the ability to select the quantum properties of a fermion and/or a boson
> that are useful and discard the others.
>
>
>
> It is now possible to build a material that hosts quasiparticles that mix
> and match the quantum properties selected from one or more fundamental
> particles that are useful and to ignore or restrict the other less
> advantageous ones. The selected quantum properties can be strengthened and
> protected while other properties can be ignored.
>
>
>
> For example, condensed matter Scientists can now see their way in
> creating Majorana particles because of their potential to store quantum
> information in a special computation space where quantum information is
> protected from the environment noise.
>
>
>
> “The new discovery of topological superconductivity in a two-dimensional
> platform paves the way for building scalable topological qubits to not only
> store quantum information, but also to manipulate the quantum states that
> are free of error,”
>
>
>
> Now what does this mean for LENR. It is possible to isolate the
> hypercharge property of the electron and form a superconducting condensate
> of hypercharge. What this hypercharge condensate turns out to be is the
> HIGGS field. A quasiparticle of a condensate of hypercharge can project an
> amplified Higgs field into a volume of matter and break that matter apart
> through an increase in the mass of its constituent quarks. After the
> amplified Higgs field is removed, the quarks will reform into a set of new
> elements.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 6:28 PM JonesBeene  wrote:
>
>> For many years, a recurring theme  on vortex involves the idea that a
>> local form of high temperature superconductivity could be the hidden
>>  underlying modality which was needed to form a BEC condensate in palladium
>> deuteride, and that this condensate was necessary as a prerequisite for a
>> nuclear reaction  to occur at elevated temperature,, even if the state
>> lasted  only picoseconds, as opposed to stability at  cryogenic conditions.
>>
>>
>>
>> The argument could be worth renewed interest – given that transient HTSC
>> has been found and reported in an authoritative study not involving LENR.
>> That report turned up on LENR forum from poster Ahlfors  - as the subject
>> of a PhD  thesis by M. Syed from an Australian University.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://web.tiscali.it/pt1963.home/publist.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> “Transient High-Temperature Superconductivity in Palladium Hydride”
>>
>>
>>
>> The nano-magnetism concept of Ahern, for instance, was  predicated on
>> high-temperature local superconductivity for reducing randomness, arguably
>> in the form of a ‘transient condensate.’ As to why a pulse of magnetism
>> would be important – very 

Re: [Vo]:Transient superconductivity in palladium hydrides

2019-08-18 Thread mixent
In reply to  bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Sat, 17 Aug 2019 23:14:46
+:
Hi Bob,

No, I was just wondering where you expelled electron came from?

>Robin—
>
>You may be correct: However the x-rays associated with replacement of the 
>captured electron have not been reported for Pd systems to my knowledge.  Are 
>you aware of any test data in this regard?
>
>
>
>Bob Cook
>
>
>
>
>
>Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
>
>
>
>
>From: mix...@bigpond.com 
>Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 12:18:33 PM
>To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
>Subject: Re: [Vo]:Transient superconductivity in palladium hydrides
>
>In reply to  bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Sat, 17 Aug 2019 18:12:14
>+:
>Hi,
>[snip]
>>First a pairing of H isotopes in a tight spin 0 Cooper pair- like entity 
>>(still part of the coherent system) and second an change of a proton to a 
>>neutron with expulsion of an electron.
>
>A neutron may be formed through electron capture, not expulsion?
>[snip]
>Regards,
>
>
>Robin van Spaandonk
>
>local asymmetry = temporary success
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success



RE: [Vo]:Transient superconductivity in palladium hydrides

2019-08-17 Thread JonesBeene

If the mechanics of transient superconductivity as laid out in this thread - 
are shown to produce a rapid expansion of previously condensed matter following 
the collapse of the  (transient) magnetic field which was induced by the 
(transient) spintronics current – THEN – we have defined a most desirable and 
simplified situation since nuclear fusion itself is not required to show energy 
gain.

In fact, all appearances indicate that the dynamics  would amount to the same 
identical scenario  as the Coulomb explosion (of Miley and many others). There 
could be incidental fusion but it is not powering the main thermal gain.

As to “where” the excess energy comers from – since fusion would not be 
required  – that source can easily be identified as nuclear binding energy 
(strong force mechanics). 

Gluons, in a word.

Mass  is still being converted into energy but without nuclear fusion.

… which is a more intuitive model compared to the huge  burden necessary  to 
explain away the lack of gamma radiation.

Jones



RE: [Vo]:Transient superconductivity in palladium hydrides

2019-08-17 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Robin—

You may be correct: However the x-rays associated with replacement of the 
captured electron have not been reported for Pd systems to my knowledge.  Are 
you aware of any test data in this regard?



Bob Cook





Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10




From: mix...@bigpond.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 12:18:33 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Transient superconductivity in palladium hydrides

In reply to  bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Sat, 17 Aug 2019 18:12:14
+:
Hi,
[snip]
>First a pairing of H isotopes in a tight spin 0 Cooper pair- like entity 
>(still part of the coherent system) and second an change of a proton to a 
>neutron with expulsion of an electron.

A neutron may be formed through electron capture, not expulsion?
[snip]
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success



RE: [Vo]:Transient superconductivity in palladium hydrides

2019-08-17 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Axil—
My recent comments to Jones, Mark and Brian regarding  the LLENR of Pd coherent 
lattice systems suggests the pertinence of thermodynamic parameters of 
temperature and pressure to coherent systems..

Direct electricity from an engineered system with a thermo- electric connection 
adjacent to the nano system producing the high  temperature would seem to be 
possible and a reasonable engineered development;

This may be what Rossi is working on.

Bob Cook

__-



From: Axil Axil 
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 8:56:41 AM
To: vortex-l 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Transient superconductivity in palladium hydrides

We now know that the compression mechanics that actions hot fusion is not 
happening in the LENR reaction, but experimental date does unequivocally show 
that fusion of elements is occurring. Also the weak force reaction that many 
believe is at the core of the LENR reaction does not fit the experimental LENR 
reaction based evidence that has accumulated over the years. We see in the work 
of Holmlid a new type of nuclear and subnuclear reaction that rips matter apart 
and seems to provide an alternative reaction pathway other than fusion through 
compression and the weak force.

The coming thing in condensed matter physics and quantum engineering is the 
ability to select the quantum properties of a fermion and/or a boson that are 
useful and discard the others.

It is now possible to build a material that hosts quasiparticles that mix and 
match the quantum properties selected from one or more fundamental particles 
that are useful and to ignore or restrict the other less advantageous ones. The 
selected quantum properties can be strengthened and protected while other 
properties can be ignored.

For example, condensed matter Scientists can now see their way in creating 
Majorana particles because of their potential to store quantum information in a 
special computation space where quantum information is protected from the 
environment noise.

“The new discovery of topological superconductivity in a two-dimensional 
platform paves the way for building scalable topological qubits to not only 
store quantum information, but also to manipulate the quantum states that are 
free of error,”

Now what does this mean for LENR. It is possible to isolate the hypercharge 
property of the electron and form a superconducting condensate of hypercharge. 
What this hypercharge condensate turns out to be is the HIGGS field. A 
quasiparticle of a condensate of hypercharge can project an amplified Higgs 
field into a volume of matter and break that matter apart through an increase 
in the mass of its constituent quarks. After the amplified Higgs field is 
removed, the quarks will reform into a set of new elements.



On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 6:28 PM JonesBeene 
mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>> wrote:
For many years, a recurring theme  on vortex involves the idea that a local 
form of high temperature superconductivity could be the hidden  underlying 
modality which was needed to form a BEC condensate in palladium deuteride, and 
that this condensate was necessary as a prerequisite for a nuclear reaction  to 
occur at elevated temperature,, even if the state lasted  only picoseconds, as 
opposed to stability at  cryogenic conditions.

The argument could be worth renewed interest – given that transient HTSC has 
been found and reported in an authoritative study not involving LENR. That 
report turned up on LENR forum from poster Ahlfors  - as the subject of a PhD  
thesis by M. Syed from an Australian University.

http://web.tiscali.it/pt1963.home/publist.htm

“Transient High-Temperature Superconductivity in Palladium Hydride”

The nano-magnetism concept of Ahern, for instance, was  predicated on 
high-temperature local superconductivity for reducing randomness, arguably in 
the form of a ‘transient condensate.’ As to why a pulse of magnetism would be 
important – very simply this gets back to structural uniformity and  Boson 
statistics.

Two bound deuterons in a cavity exist at identical ‘compreture’ due to the 
cavity containment but that is not enough. Magnetism can thereafter align spin, 
so immediately you have a near-condensate in the sense of extreme DFR 
("Divergence From Randomness") in the physical properties of those atoms in the 
matrix.  From this highly structured but non-cryogenic state – a “virtual BEC” 
need  last only picoseconds if there us sequential recurrence.

This is from one of the earlier threads on vortex - with a SPAWARS citation 
linking to further details on LENR-CANR.org.

https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg89480.html






Re: [Vo]:Transient superconductivity in palladium hydrides

2019-08-17 Thread mixent
In reply to  bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Sat, 17 Aug 2019 18:12:14
+:
Hi,
[snip]
>First a pairing of H isotopes in a tight spin 0 Cooper pair- like entity 
>(still part of the coherent system) and second an change of a proton to a 
>neutron with expulsion of an electron.

A neutron may be formed through electron capture, not expulsion?
[snip]
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success



RE: [Vo]:Transient superconductivity in palladium hydrides

2019-08-17 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Jones, Brian and Mark—

I agree with the importance of the transient magnetic field in forcing the 
fusion of hydrogen isotopes in a single Pd lattice site
to change to tritium  deuterium or He (3 or 4) during the coherent systems 
changing energy states.

The transitions happen as resonant conditions are established by the changing 
magnetic field, IMHO. And a two step process may happen as well.  First a 
pairing of H isotopes in a tight spin 0 Cooper pair- like entity (still part of 
the coherent system) and second an change of a proton to a neutron with 
expulsion of an electron.

The final result—a lower potential energy   state of the coherent system, but 
higher kinetic energy of the electrons of the lattice.

I may be that the transition occurs in more than one lattice site within the 
coherent system making it a more likely reaction as resonant conditions change.

The size of the coherent system is important to retain a temperature of the 
lattice below its melting point.   However, there is an increase of entropy of 
the coherent system, consistent with the 2nd Law of thermodynamics.  It remains 
that the phonic lattice energy of the coherent system is given up to adjacent 
systems at as relatively slow pace reflecting normal conduction and radiant 
heat transfer.

Bob Cook

From: JonesBeene<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 6:22 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Transient superconductivity in palladium hydrides


Thanks Mark,

A more streamlined paper without all the fluff of a thesis is here

https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1608/1608.01774.pdf

… where they report the observation of conventional superconductivity at “the 
highest temperature yet attained without mechanical compression” which is 
around 54 kelvin in palladium-hydride and 60 kelvin in palladium-deuteride. The 
isotopic difference is important.

Actually this statement is probably NOT accurate, as there are higher reports 
in the literature of equal credibility  - but nevertheless that is their claim. 
At high applied pressure, RTHC was achieved earlier this year and notably this 
report was in a hydride as well (LaH10). The point being that hydrides are 
probably where the action is to be found in this field. That relates to LENR.

Further: “The remarkable increase in Tc compared to the previously known value 
was achieved by rapidly cooling the hydride and deuteride after loading with 
hydrogen or deuterium at elevated temperature. Our results encourage hope that 
conventional superconductivity under ambient conditions will be discovered in 
materials with very high hydrogen density, as predicted more than a decade ago” 
END

This report is of course still far from the operating range of an LENR cell, 
especially the Mizuno recent claim – and for it to be relevant there would need 
to be transient signs of SC at roughly 300 C but the main point about cycling 
has another level of interest – which is an optical effect. A narrow optical 
range would be the key cycling modality.

A photon cycling protocol could even be hidden away under the cover of 60 Hertz 
input, for instance. BTW – a most interesting host matrix for deuterium LENR 
would be lanthanum pentanickel LaNi5 – which naturally absorbs far more 
deuterium per mole than palladium. In fact it could be the case that that a 
kind of induced  hexavalency in the host is important.


From: Mark Jurich<mailto:jur...@hotmail.com>

FYI:

Here are the links to obtain the titled thesis, mentioned below:
https://research-repository.griffith.edu.au/handle/10072/367614
https://research-repository.griffith.edu.au/bitstream/handle/10072/367614/Muhammad%20Hasnain_2016_01Thesis.pdf

- Mark Jurich

From: JonesBeene

For many years, a recurring theme  on vortex involves the idea that a local 
form of high temperature superconductivity could be the hidden  underlying 
modality which was needed to form a BEC condensate in palladium deuteride, and 
that this condensate was necessary as a prerequisite for a nuclear reaction  to 
occur at elevated temperature,, even if the state lasted  only picoseconds, as 
opposed to stability at  cryogenic conditions.

The argument could be worth renewed interest – given that transient HTSC has 
been found and reported in an authoritative study not involving LENR. That 
report turned up on LENR forum from poster Ahlfors  - as the subject of a PhD  
thesis by M. Syed from an Australian University.

http://web.tiscali.it/pt1963.home/publist.htm

“Transient High-Temperature Superconductivity in Palladium Hydride”

The nano-magnetism concept of Ahern, for instance, was  predicated on 
high-temperature local superconductivity for reducing randomness, arguably in 
the form of a ‘transient condensate.’ As to why a pulse of magnetism would be 
important – very simply this gets back to structural uniformity and  Boson 
statistics.

Two bound deuterons in a cavity exist at identica

Re: [Vo]:Transient superconductivity in palladium hydrides

2019-08-17 Thread Axil Axil
We now know that the compression mechanics that actions hot fusion is not
happening in the LENR reaction, but experimental date does unequivocally
show that fusion of elements is occurring. Also the weak force reaction
that many believe is at the core of the LENR reaction does not fit the
experimental LENR reaction based evidence that has accumulated over the
years. We see in the work of Holmlid a new type of nuclear and subnuclear
reaction that rips matter apart and seems to provide an alternative
reaction pathway other than fusion through compression and the weak force.



The coming thing in condensed matter physics and quantum engineering is the
ability to select the quantum properties of a fermion and/or a boson that
are useful and discard the others.



It is now possible to build a material that hosts quasiparticles that mix
and match the quantum properties selected from one or more fundamental
particles that are useful and to ignore or restrict the other less
advantageous ones. The selected quantum properties can be strengthened and
protected while other properties can be ignored.



For example, condensed matter Scientists can now see their way in creating
Majorana particles because of their potential to store quantum information
in a special computation space where quantum information is protected from
the environment noise.



“The new discovery of topological superconductivity in a two-dimensional
platform paves the way for building scalable topological qubits to not only
store quantum information, but also to manipulate the quantum states that
are free of error,”



Now what does this mean for LENR. It is possible to isolate the hypercharge
property of the electron and form a superconducting condensate of
hypercharge. What this hypercharge condensate turns out to be is the HIGGS
field. A quasiparticle of a condensate of hypercharge can project an
amplified Higgs field into a volume of matter and break that matter apart
through an increase in the mass of its constituent quarks. After the
amplified Higgs field is removed, the quarks will reform into a set of new
elements.





On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 6:28 PM JonesBeene  wrote:

> For many years, a recurring theme  on vortex involves the idea that a
> local form of high temperature superconductivity could be the hidden
>  underlying modality which was needed to form a BEC condensate in palladium
> deuteride, and that this condensate was necessary as a prerequisite for a
> nuclear reaction  to occur at elevated temperature,, even if the state
> lasted  only picoseconds, as opposed to stability at  cryogenic conditions.
>
>
>
> The argument could be worth renewed interest – given that transient HTSC
> has been found and reported in an authoritative study not involving LENR.
> That report turned up on LENR forum from poster Ahlfors  - as the subject
> of a PhD  thesis by M. Syed from an Australian University.
>
>
>
> http://web.tiscali.it/pt1963.home/publist.htm
>
>
>
> “Transient High-Temperature Superconductivity in Palladium Hydride”
>
>
>
> The nano-magnetism concept of Ahern, for instance, was  predicated on
> high-temperature local superconductivity for reducing randomness, arguably
> in the form of a ‘transient condensate.’ As to why a pulse of magnetism
> would be important – very simply this gets back to structural uniformity
> and  Boson statistics.
>
>
>
> Two bound deuterons in a cavity exist at identical ‘compreture’ due to the
> cavity containment but that is not enough. Magnetism can thereafter align
> spin, so immediately you have a near-condensate in the sense of extreme DFR
> ("Divergence From Randomness") in the physical properties of those atoms in
> the matrix.  From this highly structured but non-cryogenic state – a
> “virtual BEC” need  last only picoseconds if there us sequential recurrence.
>
>
>
> This is from one of the earlier threads on vortex - with a SPAWARS
> citation linking to further details on LENR-CANR.org.
>
>
>
> https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg89480.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: [Vo]:Transient superconductivity in palladium hydrides

2019-08-17 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.sci-news.com/physics/topological-superconductivity-07501.html

Topological Superconductivity Holds Promise for Fault-Tolerant Quantum
Computing

“The new discovery of topological superconductivity in a two-dimensional
platform paves the way for building scalable topological qubits to not only
store quantum information, but also to manipulate the quantum states that
are free of error,” Dr. Shabani said.

On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 11:40 AM JonesBeene  wrote:

> To clarify:
>
>
>
> “A photon cycling protocol could even be hidden away under the cover of 60
> Hertz input”
>
>
>
> Most observers balk at such talk – that is,  rapid cycling of temperature
> over a wide range  in an actual operating environment, which is restrained
> by so-called thermal inertia –  itself a fiction when it comes to  small
> geometry – nano and below.
>
>
>
> On the surface, rapid cycling may not seem to relate well to actual
> thermal change over a wide range. However, if the relevant parameter being
> cycled  is not temperature per se but  “comperature” then oscillation could
> happen far more rapidly than actual extreme cycling of temperature
> suggests. “Comperature” would be the operative concept.
>
>
>
> It becomes a semantics issue. AFAIK the parameter of “comperature” was
> introduced by F. Grimer here years ago - but largely ignored as it bridges
> the gap between QM and macro reality in a way that may be uncomfortable to
> mechanical engineers. But it is useful in the present context of nano
> geometry. In short, comperature can be defined as a single variable or
> parameter which is an amalgam of pressure and temperature at the atomic
>  and molecular level.
>
>
>
> The two properties cannot be truly separated in a practical sense as Boyle
> observed many years ago – and perhaps they cannot be separated at all in
> condensed matter. For instance, hydrogen, which has been captured in the
> Casimir pores of a ferromagnetic metal at ambient or even well above
> ambient – could nevertheless physically  experience the equivalent
> restriction in degrees of freedom as if at absolute zero. Having high
> effective over-voltage is the same as extreme compression. At a loading of
> 1:1 in a metal matrix, the effective pressure is arguably  well over 10,000
> bar, according to Frank, and thus the relevant comperature would possess an
> effective temperature  equivalent near absolute zero.
>
>
>
> In the case of superconductivity then - even at ambient ‘normal’
> temperature in the larger system a  hydride could be considered cooled to 1
> degree K in a relativistic sense.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


RE: [Vo]:Transient superconductivity in palladium hydrides

2019-08-17 Thread JonesBeene
To clarify: 

“A photon cycling protocol could even be hidden away under the cover of 60 
Hertz input”

Most observers balk at such talk – that is,  rapid cycling of temperature over 
a wide range  in an actual operating environment, which is restrained by 
so-called thermal inertia –  itself a fiction when it comes to  small geometry 
– nano and below.

On the surface, rapid cycling may not seem to relate well to actual thermal 
change over a wide range. However, if the relevant parameter being cycled  is 
not temperature per se but  “comperature” then oscillation could happen far 
more rapidly than actual extreme cycling of temperature suggests. “Comperature” 
would be the operative concept. 

It becomes a semantics issue. AFAIK the parameter of “comperature” was 
introduced by F. Grimer here years ago - but largely ignored as it bridges the 
gap between QM and macro reality in a way that may be uncomfortable to 
mechanical engineers. But it is useful in the present context of nano geometry. 
In short, comperature can be defined as a single variable or parameter which is 
an amalgam of pressure and temperature at the atomic  and molecular level. 

The two properties cannot be truly separated in a practical sense as Boyle 
observed many years ago – and perhaps they cannot be separated at all in 
condensed matter. For instance, hydrogen, which has been captured in the 
Casimir pores of a ferromagnetic metal at ambient or even well above ambient – 
could nevertheless physically  experience the equivalent restriction in degrees 
of freedom as if at absolute zero. Having high effective over-voltage is the 
same as extreme compression. At a loading of 1:1 in a metal matrix, the 
effective pressure is arguably  well over 10,000 bar, according to Frank, and 
thus the relevant comperature would possess an effective temperature  
equivalent near absolute zero.

In the case of superconductivity then - even at ambient ‘normal’ temperature in 
the larger system a  hydride could be considered cooled to 1 degree K in a 
relativistic sense. 





Re: [Vo]:Transient superconductivity in palladium hydrides

2019-08-17 Thread Axil Axil
Recent experiments involving compression of deuterium using laser pulses
has shown that ultra dense deuterium frond through laser compression can
remain quantum mechanically coherent up to a temperature of 90.000F.

https://www.futurity.org/plasma-liquid-metal-physics-2003862/

WHEN LIQUID METAL TURNS TO PLASMA, THE PHYSICS GET WEIRD

All ultra dense metals including hydrogen and water retain quantum behavior
up to 90,000F

This supports the idea that compressed matter is a heat source inside
planets and other smaller bodies.

On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 10:22 AM JonesBeene  wrote:

>
>
> Thanks Mark,
>
>
>
> A more streamlined paper without all the fluff of a thesis is here
>
>
>
> https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1608/1608.01774.pdf
>
>
>
> … where they report the observation of conventional superconductivity at
> “the highest temperature yet attained without mechanical compression” which
> is around 54 kelvin in palladium-hydride and 60 kelvin in
> palladium-deuteride. The isotopic difference is important.
>
>
>
> Actually this statement is probably NOT accurate, as there are higher
> reports in the literature of equal credibility  - but nevertheless that is
> their claim. At high applied pressure, RTHC was achieved earlier this year
> and notably this report was in a hydride as well (LaH10). The point being
> that hydrides are probably where the action is to be found in this field.
> That relates to LENR.
>
>
>
> Further: “The remarkable increase in Tc compared to the previously known
> value was achieved by rapidly cooling the hydride and deuteride after
> loading with hydrogen or deuterium at elevated temperature. Our results
> encourage hope that conventional superconductivity under ambient conditions
> will be discovered in materials with very high hydrogen density, as
> predicted more than a decade ago” END
>
>
>
> This report is of course still far from the operating range of an LENR
> cell, especially the Mizuno recent claim – and for it to be relevant there
> would need to be transient signs of SC at roughly 300 C but the main point
> about cycling has another level of interest – which is an optical effect. A
> narrow optical range would be the key cycling modality.
>
>
>
> A photon cycling protocol could even be hidden away under the cover of 60
> Hertz input, for instance. BTW – a most interesting host matrix for
> deuterium LENR would be lanthanum pentanickel LaNi5 – which naturally
> absorbs far more deuterium per mole than palladium. In fact it could be the
> case that that a kind of induced  hexavalency in the host is important.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Mark Jurich 
>
>
>
> FYI:
>
>
>
> Here are the links to obtain the titled thesis, mentioned below:
>
> https://research-repository.griffith.edu.au/handle/10072/367614
>
>
> https://research-repository.griffith.edu.au/bitstream/handle/10072/367614/Muhammad%20Hasnain_2016_01Thesis.pdf
>
>
>
> - Mark Jurich
>
>
>
> *From:* JonesBeene
>
>
>
> For many years, a recurring theme  on vortex involves the idea that a
> local form of high temperature superconductivity could be the hidden
>  underlying modality which was needed to form a BEC condensate in palladium
> deuteride, and that this condensate was necessary as a prerequisite for a
> nuclear reaction  to occur at elevated temperature,, even if the state
> lasted  only picoseconds, as opposed to stability at  cryogenic conditions.
>
>
>
> The argument could be worth renewed interest – given that transient HTSC
> has been found and reported in an authoritative study not involving LENR.
> That report turned up on LENR forum from poster Ahlfors  - as the subject
> of a PhD  thesis by M. Syed from an Australian University.
>
>
>
> http://web.tiscali.it/pt1963.home/publist.htm
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>
>
> “Transient High-Temperature Superconductivity in Palladium Hydride”
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>
> The nano-magnetism concept of Ahern, for instance, was  predicated on
> high-temperature local superconductivity for reducing randomness, arguably
> in the form of a ‘transient condensate.’ As to why a pulse of magnetism
> would be important – very simply this gets back to structural uniformity
> and  Boson statistics.
>
>
>
> Two bound deuterons in a cavity exist at identical ‘compreture’ due to the
> cavity containment but that is not enough. Magnetism can thereafter align
> spin, so immediately you have a near-condensate in the sense of extreme DFR
> ("Divergence From Randomness") in the physical properties of those atoms in
> the matrix.  From this highly structured but non-cryogenic state – a
> “virtual BEC” need  last only picoseconds if there us sequential recurrence.
>
>
>
> This is from one of the earlier threads on vortex - with a SPAWARS
> citation linking to further details on LENR-CANR.org.
>
>
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> https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg89480.html
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RE: [Vo]:Transient superconductivity in palladium hydrides

2019-08-17 Thread JonesBeene

Thanks Mark,

A more streamlined paper without all the fluff of a thesis is here

https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1608/1608.01774.pdf

… where they report the observation of conventional superconductivity at “the 
highest temperature yet attained without mechanical compression” which is 
around 54 kelvin in palladium-hydride and 60 kelvin in palladium-deuteride. The 
isotopic difference is important.

Actually this statement is probably NOT accurate, as there are higher reports 
in the literature of equal credibility  - but nevertheless that is their claim. 
At high applied pressure, RTHC was achieved earlier this year and notably this 
report was in a hydride as well (LaH10). The point being that hydrides are 
probably where the action is to be found in this field. That relates to LENR.

Further: “The remarkable increase in Tc compared to the previously known value 
was achieved by rapidly cooling the hydride and deuteride after loading with 
hydrogen or deuterium at elevated temperature. Our results encourage hope that 
conventional superconductivity under ambient conditions will be discovered in 
materials with very high hydrogen density, as predicted more than a decade ago” 
END

This report is of course still far from the operating range of an LENR cell, 
especially the Mizuno recent claim – and for it to be relevant there would need 
to be transient signs of SC at roughly 300 C but the main point about cycling 
has another level of interest – which is an optical effect. A narrow optical 
range would be the key cycling modality. 

A photon cycling protocol could even be hidden away under the cover of 60 Hertz 
input, for instance. BTW – a most interesting host matrix for deuterium LENR 
would be lanthanum pentanickel LaNi5 – which naturally absorbs far more 
deuterium per mole than palladium. In fact it could be the case that that a 
kind of induced  hexavalency in the host is important.


From: Mark Jurich

FYI:

Here are the links to obtain the titled thesis, mentioned below:
https://research-repository.griffith.edu.au/handle/10072/367614
https://research-repository.griffith.edu.au/bitstream/handle/10072/367614/Muhammad%20Hasnain_2016_01Thesis.pdf

- Mark Jurich

From: JonesBeene 

For many years, a recurring theme  on vortex involves the idea that a local 
form of high temperature superconductivity could be the hidden  underlying 
modality which was needed to form a BEC condensate in palladium deuteride, and 
that this condensate was necessary as a prerequisite for a nuclear reaction  to 
occur at elevated temperature,, even if the state lasted  only picoseconds, as 
opposed to stability at  cryogenic conditions.

The argument could be worth renewed interest – given that transient HTSC has 
been found and reported in an authoritative study not involving LENR. That 
report turned up on LENR forum from poster Ahlfors  - as the subject of a PhD  
thesis by M. Syed from an Australian University.

http://web.tiscali.it/pt1963.home/publist.htm

“Transient High-Temperature Superconductivity in Palladium Hydride”

The nano-magnetism concept of Ahern, for instance, was  predicated on 
high-temperature local superconductivity for reducing randomness, arguably in 
the form of a ‘transient condensate.’ As to why a pulse of magnetism would be 
important – very simply this gets back to structural uniformity and  Boson 
statistics. 

Two bound deuterons in a cavity exist at identical ‘compreture’ due to the 
cavity containment but that is not enough. Magnetism can thereafter align spin, 
so immediately you have a near-condensate in the sense of extreme DFR 
("Divergence From Randomness") in the physical properties of those atoms in the 
matrix.  From this highly structured but non-cryogenic state – a “virtual BEC” 
need  last only picoseconds if there us sequential recurrence.

This is from one of the earlier threads on vortex - with a SPAWARS citation 
linking to further details on LENR-CANR.org.

https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg89480.html







RE: [Vo]:Transient superconductivity in palladium hydrides

2019-08-16 Thread JonesBeene

From: mix...@bigpond.com

➢ If temporary superconducting states cycle frequently enough, and in 
sufficient number, then this could be the mechanism behind CF.

Hi Robin,

Yes,  rapid cycling would seem to be  required and especially in the case where 
photons interact with electrons in quantum cavities.

There is a phenomenon known as the Eliashberg effect which seems to be relevant.

There are many new papers like this one which ostensibly have nothing to do 
with LENR but provide much insight if transient HTSC is involved.

https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.122.017401






RE: [Vo]:Transient superconductivity in palladium hydrides

2019-08-16 Thread Mark Jurich
FYI:

Here are the links to obtain the titled thesis, mentioned below:
https://research-repository.griffith.edu.au/handle/10072/367614
https://research-repository.griffith.edu.au/bitstream/handle/10072/367614/Muhammad%20Hasnain_2016_01Thesis.pdf

- Mark Jurich

From: JonesBeene 
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 3:29 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Transient superconductivity in palladium hydrides

For many years, a recurring theme  on vortex involves the idea that a local 
form of high temperature superconductivity could be the hidden  underlying 
modality which was needed to form a BEC condensate in palladium deuteride, and 
that this condensate was necessary as a prerequisite for a nuclear reaction  to 
occur at elevated temperature,, even if the state lasted  only picoseconds, as 
opposed to stability at  cryogenic conditions.

The argument could be worth renewed interest – given that transient HTSC has 
been found and reported in an authoritative study not involving LENR. That 
report turned up on LENR forum from poster Ahlfors  - as the subject of a PhD  
thesis by M. Syed from an Australian University.

http://web.tiscali.it/pt1963.home/publist.htm

“Transient High-Temperature Superconductivity in Palladium Hydride”

The nano-magnetism concept of Ahern, for instance, was  predicated on 
high-temperature local superconductivity for reducing randomness, arguably in 
the form of a ‘transient condensate.’ As to why a pulse of magnetism would be 
important – very simply this gets back to structural uniformity and  Boson 
statistics.

Two bound deuterons in a cavity exist at identical ‘compreture’ due to the 
cavity containment but that is not enough. Magnetism can thereafter align spin, 
so immediately you have a near-condensate in the sense of extreme DFR 
("Divergence From Randomness") in the physical properties of those atoms in the 
matrix.  From this highly structured but non-cryogenic state – a “virtual BEC” 
need  last only picoseconds if there us sequential recurrence.

This is from one of the earlier threads on vortex - with a SPAWARS citation 
linking to further details on LENR-CANR.org.

https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg89480.html






Re: [Vo]:Transient superconductivity in palladium hydrides

2019-08-16 Thread mixent
In reply to  JonesBeene's message of Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:28:57 -0700:
Hi Jones,

In an early post on vortex - decades ago, I proposed that the reversion of a
superconducting state to normal, would result in a very fast magnetic field
collapse, which due to V = - L di/dt could produce a local high voltage pulse
that might accelerate particles enough to produce some fusion reactions.
(This is because when a section of the lattice becomes locally superconducting
it forms a local short circuit, and all local current flows through it, rather
than through the surrounding lattice. When it reverts to normal, the resistance
suddenly increases and the current tries to stop, but is forced to continue by
the collapsing magnetic field. High current x R => high voltage; another way of
looking at it.)

If temporary superconducting states cycle frequently enough, and in sufficient
number, then this could be the mechanism behind CF.

>For many years, a recurring theme  on vortex involves the idea that a local 
>form of high temperature superconductivity could be the hidden  underlying 
>modality which was needed to form a BEC condensate in palladium deuteride, and 
>that this condensate was necessary as a prerequisite for a nuclear reaction  
>to occur at elevated temperature,, even if the state lasted  only picoseconds, 
>as opposed to stability at  cryogenic conditions.
>
>The argument could be worth renewed interest – given that transient HTSC has 
>been found and reported in an authoritative study not involving LENR. That 
>report turned up on LENR forum from poster Ahlfors  - as the subject of a PhD  
>thesis by M. Syed from an Australian University.
>
>http://web.tiscali.it/pt1963.home/publist.htm
>
>“Transient High-Temperature Superconductivity in Palladium Hydride”
>
>The nano-magnetism concept of Ahern, for instance, was  predicated on 
>high-temperature local superconductivity for reducing randomness, arguably in 
>the form of a ‘transient condensate.’ As to why a pulse of magnetism would be 
>important – very simply this gets back to structural uniformity and  Boson 
>statistics. 
>
>Two bound deuterons in a cavity exist at identical ‘compreture’ due to the 
>cavity containment but that is not enough. Magnetism can thereafter align 
>spin, so immediately you have a near-condensate in the sense of extreme DFR 
>("Divergence From Randomness") in the physical properties of those atoms in 
>the matrix.  From this highly structured but non-cryogenic state – a “virtual 
>BEC” need  last only picoseconds if there us sequential recurrence.
>
>This is from one of the earlier threads on vortex - with a SPAWARS citation 
>linking to further details on LENR-CANR.org.
>
>https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg89480.html
>
>
>
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success