Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:This could be the start of something big

[Brian Ahern]

No superconductivity.

There is something better .

Energy localization enables all enzyme catalytic activities.


From: H LV 
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 2:28 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:This could be the start of something big


I wonder if superconductivity occurs in the human  body.

On Aug 5, 2018 4:06 AM, "Roarty, Francis X" 
mailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com>> wrote:

Calcium is a transition metal… found in limestone and coral and several 
levitation legends.



From: JonesBeene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 2:06 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:This could be the start of something big



https://arxiv.org/abs/1807.08572



“Evidence for Superconductivity at Ambient Temperature and Pressure in 
Nanostructures”



Dev Kumar Thapa, Anshu Pandey  (Submitted on 23 Jul 2018) India Institute of 
Science.



Specifically the authors who appear to be relatively unknown, found the HTSC 
and Meissner effect in silver nanoparticles embedded in a gold matrix.



However, it seems clear that  they expect more depth to the discovery than only 
gold and silver - and hopefully other less expensive combinations may turn up.



They started with a view towards discovering “non-phonon based electron pairing 
mechanisms” – IOW plasmonic.



Au and Ag are of course expensive precious metals with excellent normal 
conductivity, both thermal and electric, and notably both have low 
electron-phonon coupling and are not known to exhibit a superconducting state 
independently. Is that basic set of parameters the start of a formula which 
leads to other pairs such as zinc and cadmium or nickel and palladium?



If there is broader applicability to other related  pairs of transition metals, 
and of course if this finding is easily and quickly replicated – then it likely 
could be the start of an international race… which is reminiscent of the 
discovery of HTSC in copper oxides in 1986 by IBM researchers Bednorz and 
Muller, who were awarded the 1987 Nobel… and which scenario could happen again 
here if this is real.



Of course, the IBM discovery failed to live up to the early hype.



Jones

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:This could be the start of something big

[H LV]

I wonder if superconductivity occurs in the human  body.
On Aug 5, 2018 4:06 AM, "Roarty, Francis X" 
wrote:

> Calcium is a transition metal… found in limestone and coral and several
> levitation legends.
>
>
>
> *From:* JonesBeene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 05, 2018 2:06 PM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* EXTERNAL: [Vo]:This could be the start of something big
>
>
>
> https://arxiv.org/abs/1807.08572
>
>
>
> “Evidence for Superconductivity at Ambient Temperature and Pressure in
> Nanostructures”
>
>
>
> Dev Kumar Thapa, Anshu Pandey  (Submitted on 23 Jul 2018) India Institute
> of Science.
>
>
>
> Specifically the authors who appear to be relatively unknown, found the
> HTSC and Meissner effect in silver nanoparticles embedded in a gold matrix.
>
>
>
> However, it seems clear that  they expect more depth to the discovery than
> only gold and silver - and hopefully other less expensive combinations may
> turn up.
>
>
>
> They started with a view towards discovering “non-phonon based electron
> pairing mechanisms” – IOW plasmonic.
>
>
>
> Au and Ag are of course expensive precious metals with excellent normal
> conductivity, both thermal and electric, and notably both have low
> electron-phonon coupling and are not known to exhibit a superconducting
> state independently. Is that basic set of parameters the start of a formula
> which leads to other pairs such as zinc and cadmium or nickel and palladium?
>
>
>
> If there is broader applicability to other related  pairs of transition
> metals, and of course if this finding is easily and quickly replicated –
> then it likely could be the start of an international race… which is
> reminiscent of the discovery of HTSC in copper oxides in 1986 by IBM
> researchers Bednorz and Muller, who were awarded the 1987 Nobel… and
> which scenario could happen again here if this is real.
>
>
>
> Of course, the IBM discovery failed to live up to the early hype.
>
>
>
> Jones
>
>
>

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:This could be the start of something big

[JonesBeene]

Fran, calcium is usually classified as an alkali earth metal but it is 
intriguing in this context for two other reasons.

Calcium is indeed  a part of some HTSC compounds which came out of the early 
IBM replications. The group called BSCCO (pronounced "bisko") has calcium as a 
component, but  notably the element itself is superconductive on its own which 
would seem to exclude it from the new discovery.

Also as it turns out - calcium is an elemental HTSC only under intense 
pressure. The crystal structure changes to become superconductive at -244oC at 
ultrahigh pressures of above 200 GPa. Thus it seems to fail on two parameters 
for the new discovery from India (assuming it is replicated). 

The legends you refer to about levitating stones  are interesting and could 
point to some kind of residual pressure effect in calcium, but is there real 
science involved, or just myth?


From: Roarty, Francis X
Calcium is a transition metal… found in limestone and coral and several 
levitation legends.

From: JonesBeene 

https://arxiv.org/abs/1807.08572

“Evidence for Superconductivity at Ambient Temperature and Pressure in 
Nanostructures”

Dev Kumar Thapa, Anshu Pandey  (Submitted on 23 Jul 2018) India Institute of 
Science.

Specifically the authors who appear to be relatively unknown, found the HTSC 
and Meissner effect in silver nanoparticles embedded in a gold matrix. 

However, it seems clear that  they expect more depth to the discovery than only 
gold and silver - and hopefully other less expensive combinations may turn up.

They started with a view towards discovering “non-phonon based electron pairing 
mechanisms” – IOW plasmonic.

Au and Ag are of course expensive precious metals with excellent normal 
conductivity, both thermal and electric, and notably both have low 
electron-phonon coupling and are not known to exhibit a superconducting state 
independently. Is that basic set of parameters the start of a formula which 
leads to other pairs such as zinc and cadmium or nickel and palladium?

If there is broader applicability to other related  pairs of transition metals, 
and of course if this finding is easily and quickly replicated – then it likely 
could be the start of an international race… which is reminiscent of the 
discovery of HTSC in copper oxides in 1986 by IBM researchers Bednorz and 
Muller, who were awarded the 1987 Nobel… and which scenario could happen again 
here if this is real.

Of course, the IBM discovery failed to live up to the early hype.

Jones

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:This could be the start of something big

[Roarty, Francis X]

Calcium is a transition metal… found in limestone and coral and several 
levitation legends.

From: JonesBeene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 2:06 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:This could be the start of something big

https://arxiv.org/abs/1807.08572

“Evidence for Superconductivity at Ambient Temperature and Pressure in 
Nanostructures”

Dev Kumar Thapa, Anshu Pandey  (Submitted on 23 Jul 2018) India Institute of 
Science.

Specifically the authors who appear to be relatively unknown, found the HTSC 
and Meissner effect in silver nanoparticles embedded in a gold matrix.

However, it seems clear that  they expect more depth to the discovery than only 
gold and silver - and hopefully other less expensive combinations may turn up.

They started with a view towards discovering “non-phonon based electron pairing 
mechanisms” – IOW plasmonic.

Au and Ag are of course expensive precious metals with excellent normal 
conductivity, both thermal and electric, and notably both have low 
electron-phonon coupling and are not known to exhibit a superconducting state 
independently. Is that basic set of parameters the start of a formula which 
leads to other pairs such as zinc and cadmium or nickel and palladium?

If there is broader applicability to other related  pairs of transition metals, 
and of course if this finding is easily and quickly replicated – then it likely 
could be the start of an international race… which is reminiscent of the 
discovery of HTSC in copper oxides in 1986 by IBM researchers Bednorz and 
Muller, who were awarded the 1987 Nobel… and which scenario could happen again 
here if this is real.

Of course, the IBM discovery failed to live up to the early hype.

Jones