Re: Energy Amplifier subcritical reactor

2006-02-13 Thread Standing Bear
On Friday 10 February 2006 03:22, Harry Veeder wrote:
 The author of the article cited below mislead me.
 After checking his sources, it seems India is not building a reactor based
 on the concept energy amplification. They are building a prototype
 commercial fast breeder reactor and the only thing it has in common with
 Carlo Rubbia's proposal is that they both use thorium.

 Harry

  Carlo Rubbia originated the idea of the energy amplifier.
  http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue411/labnotes.html
  The paragraph below came from the link above.
 
  Harry
 
 
  At the Bhaba Atomic Research Center near Kalpakkam, nuclear eggheads
  like Anil Kakodkar have been noodling with thorium since 1995, and are
  currently building a pilot plant to work the bugs out of Carlo Rubbia's
  design. If all goes well, the reactor should begin producing continuous
  power by the end of the decade, and should pave the way for nine
  commercial workhorses due to come online between 2010 and 2020. If the
  scheme works‹and there's no scientific reason why it shouldn't‹it could
  well pave the way for a global migration to fission technology safe
  enough for urban areas and Third World dictatorships. So, far from
  ignoring the problem or playing the politics of half-measures, India is
  positioning itself for the realities of Kyoto and the decline of fossil
  fuels, and plans to be a leader in 21st century energy technology. I say,
  more power to 'em!


And the fast breeder is what we need to build.  The Chinese and the Japanese
are building this.  We had it once and a traitorous president threw it away in 
a misguided fit of pique for having failed  nuclear power school when he was
in the Navy.  We need to build it again, for it IS our salvation.  Its fuel 
could supply a whole constellation of small reactors like Bridgeman in 
Michigan.  Small plants that make no waves, have no accidents, make no
publicity, just generate power forever and ever and ever..cheaply!

Standing Bear




Re: Energy Amplifier subcritical reactor

2006-02-10 Thread Harry Veeder

The author of the article cited below mislead me.
After checking his sources, it seems India is not building a reactor based
on the concept energy amplification. They are building a prototype
commercial fast breeder reactor and the only thing it has in common with
Carlo Rubbia's proposal is that they both use thorium.

Harry


 
 Carlo Rubbia originated the idea of the energy amplifier.
 http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue411/labnotes.html
 The paragraph below came from the link above.
 
 Harry
 
 
 At the Bhaba Atomic Research Center near Kalpakkam, nuclear eggheads like
 Anil Kakodkar have been noodling with thorium since 1995, and are currently
 building a pilot plant to work the bugs out of Carlo Rubbia's design. If all
 goes well, the reactor should begin producing continuous power by the end of
 the decade, and should pave the way for nine commercial workhorses due to
 come online between 2010 and 2020. If the scheme works‹and there's no
 scientific reason why it shouldn't‹it could well pave the way for a global
 migration to fission technology safe enough for urban areas and Third World
 dictatorships. So, far from ignoring the problem or playing the politics of
 half-measures, India is positioning itself for the realities of Kyoto and
 the decline of fossil fuels, and plans to be a leader in 21st century energy
 technology. I say, more power to 'em!
 
 




RE: Energy Amplifier subcritical reactor

2006-02-10 Thread Zell, Chris
Ah, Thorium!

An encyclopedia will tell you that there is more energy in the world's
thorium deposits that all the oil, gas and coal combined.

Trouble is:  how do I power my car with it? 

-Original Message-
From: Harry Veeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 3:22 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Energy Amplifier subcritical reactor


The author of the article cited below mislead me.
After checking his sources, it seems India is not building a reactor
based on the concept energy amplification. They are building a prototype
commercial fast breeder reactor and the only thing it has in common with
Carlo Rubbia's proposal is that they both use thorium.

Harry


 
 Carlo Rubbia originated the idea of the energy amplifier.
 http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue411/labnotes.html
 The paragraph below came from the link above.
 
 Harry
 
 
 At the Bhaba Atomic Research Center near Kalpakkam, nuclear eggheads 
 like Anil Kakodkar have been noodling with thorium since 1995, and are

 currently building a pilot plant to work the bugs out of Carlo 
 Rubbia's design. If all goes well, the reactor should begin producing 
 continuous power by the end of the decade, and should pave the way for

 nine commercial workhorses due to come online between 2010 and 2020. 
 If the scheme worksand there's no scientific reason why it 
 shouldn'tit could well pave the way for a global migration to fission

 technology safe enough for urban areas and Third World dictatorships. 
 So, far from ignoring the problem or playing the politics of 
 half-measures, India is positioning itself for the realities of Kyoto 
 and the decline of fossil fuels, and plans to be a leader in 21st
century energy technology. I say, more power to 'em!
 
 




RE: Energy Amplifier subcritical reactor

2006-02-10 Thread Jed Rothwell

Zell, Chris wrote:


An encyclopedia will tell you that there is more energy in the world's
thorium deposits that all the oil, gas and coal combined.

Trouble is:  how do I power my car with it?


With a plug in hybrid!

- Jed




Re: Energy Amplifier subcritical reactor

2006-02-09 Thread Harry Veeder
Jed Rothwell wrote:

 A nifty idea. See:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_amplifier
 
 - Jed
 
 


Carlo Rubbia originated the idea of the energy amplifier.
http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue411/labnotes.html
The paragraph below came from the link above.

Harry


At the Bhaba Atomic Research Center near Kalpakkam, nuclear eggheads like
Anil Kakodkar have been noodling with thorium since 1995, and are currently
building a pilot plant to work the bugs out of Carlo Rubbia's design. If all
goes well, the reactor should begin producing continuous power by the end of
the decade, and should pave the way for nine commercial workhorses due to
come online between 2010 and 2020. If the scheme works‹and there's no
scientific reason why it shouldn't‹it could well pave the way for a global
migration to fission technology safe enough for urban areas and Third World
dictatorships. So, far from ignoring the problem or playing the politics of
half-measures, India is positioning itself for the realities of Kyoto and
the decline of fossil fuels, and plans to be a leader in 21st century energy
technology. I say, more power to 'em!