RE: Re : Magnetically Aligned CF Reactions, in H2O, Was RE: ICCF-11 papers....

2005-05-03 Thread Keith Nagel
Hi Fred,

Boiling water won't quite cut it; 300C needed. You might try the oven in a 
pinch,
it might just do it. This is a neat experiment for a variety
of reasons, what are you using for calorimeters?

A related thought: A while back I had it in my head that the surface morphology
could be modified by plating on a PM, I was disappointed to
find that Ni plating on a charged magnet seemed to have
no noticable effect. Isn't that surprising?

K.

-Original Message-
From: Frederick Sparber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:59 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re : Magnetically Aligned CF Reactions, in H2O, Was RE: ICCF-11
papers


Hi Keith,

Boiling hot water should do it, but I'm not going to try it until I get some
more precise measurements with some digital thermometers due in
today or tomorrow.
BTW, the Neodymium magnets are Nickel-Plated which makes for thinking
of it as a Condensed Plasma Interface with magnetic alignment of the
protons/deuterons in the
H2O-HDO-D2O, possibly as well as the stable Nickel 61 isotope. It would
take over 200 Atmospheres of 
Metal-D2 gas pressure to come close to it.

I think the gas discharge-metal surface research is knocking at this door,
as is/was
CF Cell Electrolysis D2 loading of Pd.

Frederick




 [Original Message]
 From: Keith Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Vortex vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Date: 5/3/05 11:08:07 AM
 Subject: RE: ICCF-11 papers are depressing

 Hey Fred,

 Can you get some of the magnets up to the curie point to
 demagnetize them? That would make a much better control
 than the ceramics. A propane torch might work on a small
 NdFeB, ceramics will break unless you use a furnace.

 K.

 -Original Message-
 From: Frederick Sparber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:07 AM
 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: ICCF-11 papers are depressing


 Michael Foster wrote:

  
  I wish everyone would give up on the electrolysis work.  I think
  it's just an interesting dead end.  No way to scale it up
  commercially.
 
 Agreed.  Too much energy invested into getting the effect.

 A bit soon to say anything for certain, but the 10 stacked (tissue paper
spacer) 
 Neodymium super magnets (10 mm OD x 5 mm ID)in 100 grams of distilled H2O
(about ~ 10^19 deuterons/gram H2O) in
 well-insulated cups are showing a few degree C temperature rise
 over a 48 hour soak. At 1.0 milliwatts it should take 116 hours (4.8 days)
 to get 1.0 deg C temperature rise.
 A similar well-insulated cup with a ceramic magnet stack is showing
lessor or null results.

 I've got about $10.00 US and plenty of free time invested in this thing
so far. But, since the
 Neodymium super magnets are only good up to 8o deg C if it pans out I
have an eye on 
 using it for nuke waste remediation. Maybe.

 Frederick


  





Re: Re : Magnetically Aligned CF Reactions, in H2O, Was RE: ICCF-11 papers....

2005-05-03 Thread Harry Veeder

If this warming is the result of some sort of fusion, you should place the
cup in a shield to protect against possible neutron emissions.

Harry

Frederick Sparber at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Keith,
 
 Boiling hot water should do it, but I'm not going to try it until I get some
 more precise measurements with some digital thermometers due in
 today or tomorrow.
 BTW, the Neodymium magnets are Nickel-Plated which makes for thinking
 of it as a Condensed Plasma Interface with magnetic alignment of the
 protons/deuterons in the
 H2O-HDO-D2O, possibly as well as the stable Nickel 61 isotope. It would
 take over 200 Atmospheres of
 Metal-D2 gas pressure to come close to it.
 
 I think the gas discharge-metal surface research is knocking at this door,
 as is/was
 CF Cell Electrolysis D2 loading of Pd.
 
 Frederick