Re: [Vo]: Mars Melt

2007-03-02 Thread peatbog
thomas malloy wrote:
 Jones Beene wrote:
 
 Terry

 In fact according to another scientist's controversial theory, we may
 be headed in the direction of a Maunder Minimum,

 ... which... to Meander into cold cynicism, is another solution to the
 global warming problem.
 
 
 
 I have previously mentioned Avery and Singer's book, Unstopable Global
 Warming Every 1500 Years. They make the point that the Vikings it called
 Greenland for a reason, and their colony was subsequently frozen out.
 The Romans grew wine grapes in England.

With all that warm weather, were sea levels higher? Was half of
present-day London under water?


 
 
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Re: [Vo]: Mars Melt

2007-03-01 Thread Terry Blanton

NASA solar irradiance data:

http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/stp/SOLAR/IRRADIANCE/irrad.html

On 3/1/07, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

http://snipurl.com/1bozg

Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says
Kate Ravilious
for National Geographic News

February 28, 2007

Simultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet's
recent climate changes have a natural—and not a human-induced—cause,
according to one scientist's controversial theory.

Earth is currently experiencing rapid warming, which the vast majority
of climate scientists says is due to humans pumping huge amounts of
greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. (Get an overview: Global
Warming Fast Facts.)

Mars, too, appears to be enjoying more mild and balmy temperatures.

In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions
revealed that the carbon dioxide ice caps near Mars's south pole had
been diminishing for three summers in a row.

more

Ackshully, it's the emissions from those rovers.  ;-)






RE: [Vo]: Mars Melt

2007-03-01 Thread Zell, Chris
I hope I got this right. If not, it's on Keelynet

http://cjunk.blogspot.com/2007/02/quacks-cranks-and-junk-science.html

Are global warming skeptics really cranks and kooks? 

-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 9:51 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Mars Melt

NASA solar irradiance data:

http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/stp/SOLAR/IRRADIANCE/irrad.html

On 3/1/07, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.ht
 ml

 http://snipurl.com/1bozg

 Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says

 Kate Ravilious for National Geographic News

 February 28, 2007

 Simultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet's 
 recent climate changes have a natural-and not a human-induced-cause, 
 according to one scientist's controversial theory.

 Earth is currently experiencing rapid warming, which the vast majority

 of climate scientists says is due to humans pumping huge amounts of 
 greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. (Get an overview: Global 
 Warming Fast Facts.)

 Mars, too, appears to be enjoying more mild and balmy temperatures.

 In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions 
 revealed that the carbon dioxide ice caps near Mars's south pole had

 been diminishing for three summers in a row.

 more

 Ackshully, it's the emissions from those rovers.  ;-)





Re: [Vo]: Mars Melt

2007-03-01 Thread Jones Beene

Terry

... according to one scientist's controversial theory

... you forgot to add bogus theory

Actually just the opposite is happening - with proof - the sun has been 
cooling noticeably over this exact period, and the dearth of sunspots 
and solar flux proves that:


http://www.dxlc.com/solar/

In fact according to another scientist's controversial theory, we may be 
headed in the direction of a Maunder Minimum,


... which... to Meander into cold cynicism, is another solution to the 
global warming problem.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_minimum





Terry Blanton wrote:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

http://snipurl.com/1bozg

Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says
Kate Ravilious
for National Geographic News

February 28, 2007

Simultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet's
recent climate changes have a natural—and not a human-induced—cause,
according to one scientist's controversial theory.

Earth is currently experiencing rapid warming, which the vast majority
of climate scientists says is due to humans pumping huge amounts of
greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. (Get an overview: Global
Warming Fast Facts.)

Mars, too, appears to be enjoying more mild and balmy temperatures.

In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions
revealed that the carbon dioxide ice caps near Mars's south pole had
been diminishing for three summers in a row.

more

Ackshully, it's the emissions from those rovers.  ;-)







Re: [Vo]: Mars Melt

2007-03-01 Thread thomas malloy

Jones Beene wrote:


Terry

In fact according to another scientist's controversial theory, we may 
be headed in the direction of a Maunder Minimum,


... which... to Meander into cold cynicism, is another solution to the 
global warming problem.




I have previously mentioned Avery and Singer's book, Unstopable Global 
Warming Every 1500 Years. They make the point that the Vikings it called 
Greenland for a reason, and their colony was subsequently frozen out. 
The Romans grew wine grapes in England.



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